08-10-2019, 04:10 PM | #2575 |
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BMW has indeed directed its products (including M) for the masses as of late but, CSL models have been nothing short of awesome to this point. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Imagine a 3200-3300 lb F87 with all safety and 2020 crash test standards intact.
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08-17-2019, 07:34 AM | #2577 |
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I've never understood why the E46 M3 CSL with that garbage SMG transmission is so revered. It's the most overrated car in ///M history as far as I'm concerned.
As for the possibly upcoming M2 CSL, rear-seat delete kills a lot of the attraction of the M2 for me (great for track junkies, but not so much for those of us who are road-focused and use our ///Ms more broadly). And if it is DCT-only, that would further reduce my interest to zero. |
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08-17-2019, 07:41 AM | #2578 | |
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08-18-2019, 02:19 PM | #2579 | |
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Most overrated has to be the E30 M3. Everyone who has ever actually driven one has to admit this. I own a S14 powered E30. It's fun, but far from beeing iconic. The M2 CSL would only be another parts bin special. You realize that a M2 CS would be a perfect match for you? Rear seats and 6MT and all?
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08-19-2019, 08:53 AM | #2580 |
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/08/18/t...airly-limited/ ("In November, at the 2019 Los Angeles Auto Show, BMW will finally unveil the 2020 BMW M2 CS.")
Looks like November reveal. |
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08-19-2019, 12:17 PM | #2582 | |
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I don't use any of the added tech in my f-type, but I do notice the nav system feels like Atari. |
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08-19-2019, 12:39 PM | #2583 | ||
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I'm looking forward to the next gen M2 over the CS, just to future-proof my purchase and not feel the bug to upgrade, in order to keep up with the times.. However, if you live your life a quarter mile at a time, I could see where the CS, with its emphasis on scanty luxury options can be appealing. |
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08-19-2019, 12:42 PM | #2584 | |
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08-19-2019, 02:25 PM | #2587 | |
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https://carbuzz.com/news/new-hardcor...as-reveal-date It's to know more details a out this car. Sadly not many of them gone be build
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08-20-2019, 12:54 AM | #2588 |
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08-20-2019, 11:26 PM | #2590 | |
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So a step DOWN in torque? sorry I don't want it any more
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It's looking like they're giving the CS the same tune as the M3/4 ZCP |
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However I've also heard that the 6MT is rated to a certain hp/tq number, so if it exceeds that the transmission manufacture may not warranty it. |
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