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      08-06-2019, 01:18 PM   #1057
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So going by those numbers, let's knock off the fancy brakes, the lithium battery and the MPE exhaust. That 160-(53+30+18)=59 lbs. lighter than the M2C. They could reduce weight in other areas but I don't see any obvious places to do that. When I want my car to weigh less I just stop eating ice cream after dinner .
Yea I was just listing what is possible As someone who tracks his car quite often, I would personally never choose CCB no matter how light they are. I still think the blue brakes are pretty good for what they are and they weigh 35lbs less than the silver M2C brakes. Regardless, your calculation (-60lbs) is probably what's gonna end up happening I would still add a lithium battery to it tho if BMW doesn't do it from factory. For about $700, you can save another ~48lbs with Antigravity RS-30 battery for instance (combined with CF hood, it shouldn't affect the weight distribution by that much).
For tracking, you want to save as much as possible on rotation mass ( inertia is big for breaking, accelerating, steering feel ) including wheels.
With good forged wheels and CCB you can save about 70lbs total
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For tracking, you want to save as much as possible on rotation mass ( inertia is big for breaking, accelerating, steering feel ) including wheels.
With good forged wheels and CCB you can save about 70lbs total
Exactly and that's why I went with AP Racing BBK which saved 50+ lbs over my stock M2C brakes. I also sold my heavy ass 788M stock wheels. I have lightweight 763M wheels (same ones on the M2CS) for the street and 18" APEX wheels for track. In other words, you don't necessarily have to follow the CCB route to save significant amount of weight. The replacement cost of CCBs and the fact that you cannot fit 18" wheels on them are total deal breakers for me.
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For tracking, you want to save as much as possible on rotation mass ( inertia is big for breaking, accelerating, steering feel ) including wheels.
With good forged wheels and CCB you can save about 70lbs total
Exactly and that's why I went with AP Racing BBK which saved 50+ lbs over my stock M2C brakes. I also sold my heavy ass 788M stock wheels. I have lightweight 763M wheels (same ones on the M2CS) for the street and 18" APEX wheels for track. In other words, you don't necessarily have to follow the CCB route to save significant amount of weight. The replacement cost of CCBs and the fact that you cannot fit 18" wheels on them are total deal breakers for me.
Nice!!
That's the way to go.
Can't wait sit for next year... track days for me
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Exactly and that's why I went with AP Racing BBK which saved 50+ lbs over my stock M2C brakes. I also sold my heavy ass 788M stock wheels. I have lightweight 763M wheels (same ones on the M2CS) for the street and 18" APEX wheels for track. In other words, you don't necessarily have to follow the CCB route to save significant amount of weight. The replacement cost of CCBs and the fact that you cannot fit 18" wheels on them are total deal breakers for me.
Yeah, I'd love to have those BBK brakes $$$. If I remember correctly you got a killer deal on those!
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From the first post update do we know if "room for one more model" is referring to the upcoming CS or something after that. My guess is just the CS as it has yet to be officially confirmed.

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From the first post update do we know if "room for one more model" is referring to the upcoming CS or something after that. My guess is just the CS as it has yet to be officially confirmed.
I saw that too on the new model page about the very short production which would make me think CS and March - December 2020.

Have you heard any information from your dealer Dave?
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I saw that too on the new model page about the very short production which would make me think CS and March - December 2020.

Have you heard any information from your dealer Dave?
Nope, nothing yet. I seem to know more by way of this forum than the dealership. I'll inquire this week to see if that's changed. You would think they would know something if orders were opening next month. I think orders opening before December is optimistic.
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Nope, nothing yet. I seem to know more by way of this forum than the dealership. I'll inquire this week to see if that's changed. You would think they would know something if orders were opening next month. I think orders opening before December is optimistic.
That’s been the case, on knowing more from the forum than the dealer knows, since I joined in 2006.

Maybe the turnover is really bad? The average sales guy doesn’t seem to be n enthusiast and doesn’t know much more than what they’re required to memorize. They’re more interested in your credit score and the “range” you want to be in for a monthly payment.
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Exactly and that's why I went with AP Racing BBK which saved 50+ lbs over my stock M2C brakes. I also sold my heavy ass 788M stock wheels. I have lightweight 763M wheels (same ones on the M2CS) for the street and 18" APEX wheels for track. In other words, you don't necessarily have to follow the CCB route to save significant amount of weight. The replacement cost of CCBs and the fact that you cannot fit 18" wheels on them are total deal breakers for me.
Yes 18” wheels and Alcon brakes for the M2C track spec’s first outing.

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Wheels, CF hood, and CF roof should save about ~45lbs combined. When optioned with CCB, another ~53lbs reduction can be achieved over the big brakes of M2C (2NH). If BMW also puts a lithium battery in it just like they do with M3/M4, it can save another ~30lbs (but highly doubt BMW will add the lithium battery). Those M3/M4 ZCP/GTS seats with holes should weigh less than M2C seats as well (maybe ~10lbs combined for both front seats?). If you order it with titanium MPE, it'd save another 18lbs. Considering a 6MT M2C with full tank of gas weighs 3560lbs, an M2CS 6MT can realistically come at around ~3400lbs with 150-160lbs weight savings but don't ask about the price tag of this build
So going by those numbers, let's knock off the fancy brakes, the lithium battery and the MPE exhaust. That 160-(53+30+18)=59 lbs. lighter than the M2C. They could reduce weight in other areas but I don't see any obvious places to do that. When I want my car to weigh less I just stop eating ice cream after dinner .
maybe -1 pound for removing the internal door handles, the arm rest, dual zone climate, comfort access.
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Exactly and that's why I went with AP Racing BBK which saved 50+ lbs over my stock M2C brakes. I also sold my heavy ass 788M stock wheels. I have lightweight 763M wheels (same ones on the M2CS) for the street and 18" APEX wheels for track. In other words, you don't necessarily have to follow the CCB route to save significant amount of weight. The replacement cost of CCBs and the fact that you cannot fit 18" wheels on them are total deal breakers for me.
Yes 18” wheels and Alcon brakes for the M2C track spec’s first outing.
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Am I the only one not seeing any new posts on this app since Aug 1???
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Am I the only one not seeing any new posts on this app since Aug 1???
Nope, its just holiday time
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Am I the only one not seeing any new posts on this app since Aug 1???
Nope, its just holiday time
What holiday is that?
There is one tomorrow, must be preparing for peace festival. Lol
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Sorry if this was all ready mentioned in the prior 100 pages..
Is there going to be a PTS option for the M2CS?
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Yes 18” wheels and Alcon brakes for the M2C track spec’s first outing.
The rear has the M2C BBK though...strange

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What holiday is that?
There is one tomorrow, must be preparing for peace festival. Lol
Europeans and many other places in the world get a minimum of 4 weeks vacation. Some even get 6 weeks of vacation. Much of that holiday time is taken in summer. The Italians practically shut down the country during August...no AC over there. In the US people are often guilt tripped out if they take their full 2 weeks. It's a cultural thing.
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What holiday is that?
There is one tomorrow, must be preparing for peace festival. Lol
Europeans and many other places in the world get a minimum of 4 weeks vacation. Some even get 6 weeks of vacation. Much of that holiday time is taken in summer. The Italians practically shut down the country during August...no AC over there. In the US people are often guilt tripped out if they take their full 2 weeks. It's a cultural thing.
I know, at this moment was no holiday.

I moved from Germany to US.
6 weeks are so nice, took me a while to get used to it here. After working in one place for a while, I have now 4 weeks.
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I know, at this moment was no holiday.

I moved from Germany to US.
6 weeks are so nice, took me a while to get used to it here. After working in one place for a while, I have now 4 weeks.
Good for you! Four weeks in the US is great. I had 6 weeks when I lived over there. I'd take one week at a time and get six 9 day stretches 😎 That ain't bad!
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