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      10-12-2018, 04:18 PM   #199
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I don’t think the M4 CS or GTS were available for Euro Delivery. Don’t plan on it.
That is lame...did they give reasoning?
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What makes the CS prettier than M2C?
Hate *HATE* the wheels and the weird front bumper...
Front bumper on this test mule is exactly the same one that is on M2C. It just has CF front lip attached to it, which can be done on the M2C as well.
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Front bumper on this test mule is exactly the same one that is on M2C. It just has CF front lip attached to it, which can be done on the M2C as well.
I'm guessing they will make more design changes to differentiate the two models...
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I'm guessing they will make more design changes to differentiate the two models...
Yea I'm sure they will... Just like they did on the M3/M4 vs M3/M4 CS.
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There are almost 70 M4 CS listed on Autotrader. I would guess many of them will be there months from now. A couple dealers even have unsold 2016 M4 GTS.
M3CS, M4CS and M4GTS are all great cars but the price point is too high. That's why they haven't sold. The majority of the negative reviews of the M4GTS would have disappeared if it hadn't been priced close to a GT3 (and 40K more than a GT4).

The other issue is that there are MANY enthusiasts who would buy these cars if they came with a proper 6MT transmission. There is so much demand for a good manual tranny that Porsche brought it back in the GT3. I wish BMW understood this.

As for the M2 CSL, I'm all for it. I've been first on the list now for two years, as soon as the rumor first started. But the question is will how limited it will be. And if it will be numbered. I fear many folks in this thread are excited for a car they will never even see, let alone have a real chance of buying.
Agreed!

These exclusive variants are fantastic examples of the best BMW has to offer. However, there sky high price and lack of a proper 6 speed take them out of contention for most enthusiasts
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Agreed!

These exclusive variants are fantastic examples of the best BMW has to offer. However, there sky high price and lack of a proper 6 speed take them out of contention for most enthusiasts
Don’t worry, I’m sure the CSL will be even better than this so to bring it back to reality they will only be offered in Side-Wheel-Drive and with a CVT automatic transmission to maximize the S55 smooth power delivery

Also don’t forget to add in some wonderful marketing claims that in short time will be revealed to be completely bogus... “closed deck” “completely revised suspension”

Who wants to guess what the next great “phantom feature” will be?
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CSL will never be the car it was 15 years ago. Back then we didn't see it coming and it surprised us. Today we have high expectations and market is so competitive that only parts bin project can meet profitability target for such low volume product. CSL is hardly a parts bin car, so either it's not coming or it's coming disappointing.
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Is this M2 CS the last hurrah for the 2 series and no CSL?
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      10-15-2018, 06:38 AM   #207
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CSL will never be the car it was 15 years ago.
Sounds good to me, SMG was horrible!
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CSL will never be the car it was 15 years ago.
Sounds good to me, SMG was horrible!
Unfortunately I was talking about the way it gets made - fit whatever is readily available or the new parts tailor made for it.
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I don't care how it sounds but I sincerely hope they get rid of the eyesore they call the rear exhaust barrel in the M2 CS..

I have no idea how the M2C exhaust got pass visual approval in the developmental process; it subjectively ruin the entire backend of an otherwise handsome vehicle..
easy 1st world problem to fix - to coin a famous Rolling Stones song - "Paint it Black"
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I don't care how it sounds but I sincerely hope they get rid of the eyesore they call the rear exhaust barrel in the M2 CS..

I have no idea how the M2C exhaust got pass visual approval in the developmental process; it subjectively ruin the entire backend of an otherwise handsome vehicle..
easy 1st world problem to fix - to coin a famous Rolling Stones song - "Paint it Black"
You're right.. But now I'm hearing that even the high-temp paint will eventually melt due to the massive heat build up..

Doesn't matter anyways, any appeal towards this so-called M2 CS went strait out the window for me after I realized it would be DCT only..

Next..
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I thought about just removing the big box and leave straight pipes anyway on all new M2 if I end up getting one (M2C with manual).

My 135i is straight piped, I think the M2C would even sound better, look better, weigh less...
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I don't care how it sounds but I sincerely hope they get rid of the eyesore they call the rear exhaust barrel in the M2 CS..

I have no idea how the M2C exhaust got pass visual approval in the developmental process; it subjectively ruin the entire backend of an otherwise handsome vehicle..
easy 1st world problem to fix - to coin a famous Rolling Stones song - "Paint it Black"
You're right.. But now I'm hearing that even the high-temp paint will eventually melt due to the massive heat build up..

Doesn't matter anyways, any appeal towards this so-called [COLOR="DarkRed"]M2 CS [/COLOR] went strait out the window for me after I realized it would be DCT only..

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Wait up.......M2cs in DCT only???

Did Bmw already confirm that???

That would seriously suck
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It's hasn't been officially confirmed yet.. But based on the CS history, DCT has always been exclusive.

Also, the CS would be a limited production vehicle; BMW would not want to pay to tune and crash-test both transmissions (required in the US) that has a very little return.
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Wait up.......M2cs in DCT only???

Did Bmw already confirm that???

That would seriously suck
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It's hasn't been officially confirmed yet.. But based on the CS history, DCT has always been exclusive.

Also, the CS would be a limited production vehicle; BMW would not want to pay to tune and crash-test both transmissions (require in the US) that has a very little return.
There’s an easy fix to that cost issue, make it manual only
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You're right.. But now I'm hearing that even the high-temp paint will eventually melt due to the massive heat build up.
You’re hearing wrong. I painted my aftermarket E92 M3 muffler box with high temp ceramic paint from a can. Zero issues for 4 years I owned it. Eventually sold the exhaust to a happy buyer.
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Is this M2 CS the last hurrah for the 2 series and no CSL?
It’s going to be last hurrah. Scott said CSL either for M8 and/or next gen M4.
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Wait up.......M2cs in DCT only???

Did Bmw already confirm that???

That would seriously suck
No, BMW has not confirmed the M2CS/CSL will be DCT only. BMW hasn't even confirmed the car will be made. But with the M4GTS, M4CS, M3CS, as well as history (e.g., M3 CSL, M3 GTS), the writing is on the wall. I'm first on the list for the M2 CS/CSL, but I'll quickly give up my spot when it is revealed the car is DCT only. This is *the* reason I'm not all that excited.
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Wait up.......M2cs in DCT only???

Did Bmw already confirm that???

That would seriously suck
No, BMW has not confirmed the M2CS/CSL will be DCT only. BMW hasn't even confirmed the car will be made. But with the M4GTS, M4CS, M3CS, as well as history (e.g., M3 CSL, M3 GTS), the writing is on the wall. I'm first on the list for the M2 CS/CSL, but I'll quickly give up my spot when it is revealed the car is DCT only. This is *the* reason I'm not all that excited.
Your lack of excitement is understandable

I enjoy rowing my own gears as well, part of the driving experience for me. At least, with these kind of cars.

Fingers crossed 🤞
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I have a DCT M2 and use to have a 6 speed M3. I switched when the DCT was faster and got better gas mileage. I have never regretted my decision. So, I am quite fine with a DCT M2CS.
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I have a DCT M2 and use to have a 6 speed M3. I switched when the DCT was faster and got better gas mileage. I have never regretted my decision. So, I am quite fine with a DCT M2CS.
I am loving the DCT as well...also noticed I pretty much operate it like I did the manual...shifting gears myself most of the time.
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