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      08-12-2018, 02:01 PM   #1
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Fabspeed muffler bypass vs custom made?

Instead of ordering the muffler bypass from Fabspeed, why wouldn't I just custom make one from one of the best bending experts in my area for possible 1/5 of the price?

Make it similar to Fabspeeds and same piping and all?

Whats pros and cons?
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      08-12-2018, 04:39 PM   #2
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You'll save like $950 doing it at your local muffler shop. Same thing just not as pretty looking probably. (Under the car anyways)
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You'll save like $950 doing it at your local muffler shop. Same thing just not as pretty looking probably. (Under the car anyways)
Exactly, and they can still do the chrome tips and all, I just don't understand why Fabspeed charges so much, that just shows paying for a brand.
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      08-15-2018, 12:50 PM   #4
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Hey Guys,
Phil From Fabspeed here. You might be able to put something together at your local shop however they have not tested the system as much as we have tested our exhausts. You might be saying that it is just a muffler bypass how much testing could possible be going into it. With any of our vehicle exhausts we design multiple different exhaust to create the best sounding and highest performing exhaust possible. We test all of our exhaust on our dyno as well.

You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built, all of the research and design has been completed by our staff. Multiple different exhausts were created and tested in order to find the correct one with the best sound. A brand that uses the best T304L stainless steel. A brand that each and every part is handmade by our staff here in Pennsylvania. Heck you can probably use a picture off of our site to "design your muffler bypass" but if it does not fit correctly you will need to take it back off and modify it again and again until you get it to fit correctly.
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      08-16-2018, 11:34 PM   #5
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Friend has one and it has TERRIBLE drone with a HFC, highly don't recommend buying this - they could of at least put some engineering time into it and added a J-pipe to cancel out the drone.

Sounds good revving it in a garage but not nice to actually drive, deadly drone with a HFC.
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You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built,
So how is your USA brand any different than an exhaust shop in the USA being an American brand?

Are you guys more American than other Americans?
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Hey Guys,
Phil From Fabspeed here. You might be able to put something together at your local shop however they have not tested the system as much as we have tested our exhausts. You might be saying that it is just a muffler bypass how much testing could possible be going into it. With any of our vehicle exhausts we design multiple different exhaust to create the best sounding and highest performing exhaust possible. We test all of our exhaust on our dyno as well.

You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built, all of the research and design has been completed by our staff. Multiple different exhausts were created and tested in order to find the correct one with the best sound. A brand that uses the best T304L stainless steel. A brand that each and every part is handmade by our staff here in Pennsylvania. Heck you can probably use a picture off of our site to "design your muffler bypass" but if it does not fit correctly you will need to take it back off and modify it again and again until you get it to fit correctly.
A good muffler shop that does custom exhausts can replicate your setup no problem. Cmon man! And yes using the same T304L stainless steel. Redline Speedworx amongst others does excellent custom exhaust work in NJ at reasonable prices.
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Friend has one and it has TERRIBLE drone with a HFC, highly don't recommend buying this - they could of at least put some engineering time into it and added a J-pipe to cancel out the drone.

Sounds good revving it in a garage but not nice to actually drive, deadly drone with a HFC.
Please have your friend reach out to me I would love to talk to him about his exhaust issues. I will say that this is a very aggressive setup you are adding a cat that flows 90% of free flow and deleting the muffler.
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I never said said that we are more American. I am saying that you can take our designs to the local speed shop and have them make something for you or you can find one online at a less expensive cost. What I was trying to say is that we do not outsource our designs and fabrication outside of the USA and there are cost associated with doing it this way.
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I don't understand why anyone would trust their 60k BMW to a local muffler shop. Fabspeed parts are high quality, engineered and will actually add value to the car. Not a chance would I buy a used BMW with a exhaust built/modified by, with all due respect a muffler shop guy.

The suggestion that someone copy Fabspeeds design if offensive to me. I see that crap all the time at SEMA, one company, or guy spends the time to engineer a quality part and the next year 4-5 companies from overseas show up with a copy-cat part.
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For me, it boils down to relationship with and the reputations of the vendor/muffler shop.

If youve been going to a muffler shop for years, and you know the quality, by all means. With fabspeed (or other recognised vendors) you know youre getting quality, and for me, thats enough of a reason to save the hassle and pay a proportional premium.

That said, i wouldnt go to a muffler shop with a photo of someone elses product and ask them to replicate it. It really depends how strong your moral compass it i suppose..
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Well, I decided to buy the Fabspeed Motorsport muffler bypass and downpipe.
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Well, I decided to buy the Fabspeed Motorsport muffler bypass and downpipe.
Your neighbors will love it.
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Well, I decided to buy the Fabspeed Motorsport muffler bypass and downpipe.
Fabspeed are good people that make a great product. I have purchased the HFC which I love and would highly recommend as a must have. The muffler bypass I also purchased however, I now feel that was a huge mistake. The overall sound volume level is good, but the drone is absolutely horrible at 2500 - 3200 rpm. Any positives in roar and overall volume that come from this setup are absolutely shadowed by that horrendous drone. That particular rpm is unfortunately the perfect cruising band in 5th or 6th gear.

Also I am having fitment issues with it. I hope you have better luck than myself and others have had with getting the tail pipes to index properly on your car. I really do like Fabspeed and their products, but this particular exhaust in my opinion needs to go back to the drawing board.
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Just put a remote electric 3" cutout in the last 12" section of piping before muffler, total investment less than $350 including professional install.

Using a cutout gives you the best of both worlds, you can either bypass the muffler with cutout open (deep growl with turbo whistling) OR with cutout closed, your car still retains stock muffler system.

Really blows my mind how much moolah peeps drop on exhaust systems and if you install a system without a muffler, you're stuck with LOUD 24/7
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Well, I decided to buy the Fabspeed Motorsport muffler bypass and downpipe.
Good luck with the terrible drone - I suggest getting a muffler shop to add a J-pipe or Helmholtz res the way FS should of done it if they did some actual engineering.
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