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But the M3 CS and M4 CS do not have a wing.
Also, the M2 Competition is quite heavy still. Really think that they could reduce weight by around 150 lbs. If they did that and based on Frank Van Meel's insistence on the 4 tiered model line up, there is a lot of scope for a CSL. The GTS name does look unlikely looking at this interview. |
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Outstanding interview and great questions, thanks!
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Currently. M3 - ending. production now.. has had base.. ... ZCP.. and CS..but will not have a CSL M4 - so far has three of the 4 lines and a CSL would be the last one.. base is available.. so is ZCP - comp pack... and CS.. perhaps a CSL last hurrah ? M2 - comp replaces base... but " no time" for CSL... and if just one more hurrah then an M2 CS seems more likely. For GTS treatment they would need.. roll bar... they could install the M4 GTS triple adjustables and a rear wing... some door panels.. and GTS seat option perhaps... maybe a front splitter.. but I doubt they will make any further front end aero adjustments like a new hood .. I concur. So.. expect news August of... when? Quote:
I am pretty sure that in the past.. BMW engineers have stated that they maxed out weight savings on the E46 M3. ? In keeping with this moniker, denoting lightweight design, the BMW M3 CSL introduced a series of weight-saving parts to the mix. The center console, interior door trim and rear-view mirror were made from carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic (CFRP), the rear window featured thinner glass, the trunk lid with integral spoiler lip was now lighter and weight had also been cut from the trunk trim. All in all, the judicious use of lightweight parts allowed the car’s curb weight to be reduced by 362 pounds to 3,053 pounds. http://www.bmwblog.com/2016/04/13/hi...cial-editions/ In 2010, BMW M GmbH introduced the direct successor to the BMW M3 CSL in the form of the BMW M3 GTS. Like its predecessor, it was designed to deliver the highest dynamic performance. Lightweight construction once again played a central role, reducing the car’s DIN curb weight to 3,373 pounds – 275 pounds lower than that of the standard BMW M3 Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 04-17-2018 at 07:20 PM.. |
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M3 Adjuster, Artemis, @MR: Let's mark this post.
We'll revisit later. If it is just a CS, it'll be more of a CS than the M3 CS and M4 CS combined. |
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the M3 and M4 CS are not much... 2 new colors lighter door panels lighter hood ? |
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this settles everything.
MR: What would you like to say to the owners that currently drive a M2? What should they do? Should they move to the M2 Competition? FvM: First of all, I would like to say; you have made the best possible decision. Great choice! If you feel like it, cannot resist the change or you are in the market for a new car, then please do upgrade to the new M2 Competition. You will love it! If you are not, then please stay with your beloved M2. Enjoy it, drive it, make it your own and be sure to keep that M smile on your face through every single mile or kilometer. In the end, both cars are quite different, but have an extremely strong character that is unique to the 2-Series M line up.
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Would be cool to call it the SE. But that's not gonna happen:
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yes.. that way it can be as HEAVY as possible.. Makes sense. https://www.windingroad.com/articles...-m235i-racing/ Power comes by way of an M Performance 3.0-liter biturbocharged six-cylinder motor outputting 320 horsepower and about 325 lb-ft of torque. Weight is 3135 lb. An M Performance mechanical limited slip differential will provide the twist to the 18 x 10 inch alloys, and a race-tuned ABS system will help the 4-pot front and 2-pot rear caliper brake setup slow things down as necessary Set to run in the Pirelli World Challenge TC class, the car is priced at $94,636 Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 04-17-2018 at 07:59 PM.. |
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Nice article.
Why the undisclosed location near Munich? Was it somewhere compromising to report? |
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The M2 Competition weighs a lot more so the weight will probably not be close to 3135 lbs. Hopefully, they can reduce the weight by 200 lbs when compared to the M2 Competition. Do you know what the Nurburgring time was for the M235i racing car ?? Want to understand how much quicker it is than the M2. |
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