06-21-2017, 09:24 PM | #23 |
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So I am week 24.....AKA the VERY last week of 2017...I'm also doing PCD with a tentative date very close to yours for delivery and my car is also waiting the train/boat ride. I'm doing my best to get any discount I can out of my sales guy...being 6'4" I'm not interested in the moonroof...but aside from that we're close. I'm sticking with it...but hopeful I can get something off MSRP to make me feel perfect about it all. Good luck and either way I think you'll end up happy!
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06-21-2017, 09:25 PM | #24 | |
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06-21-2017, 09:29 PM | #25 |
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Good news - I just heard that M Performance is coming out with a carbon fiber training wheel package to help keep the M2 off its doors!
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06-21-2017, 09:32 PM | #26 | |
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Edit + if the CS indeed comes with lighter roof and overall weight. And some anti-roll improvements Last edited by K1won; 06-21-2017 at 09:38 PM.. |
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06-21-2017, 09:42 PM | #27 | |
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There are MANY cars with better handling and less body roll than an M2 that have steel roofs and several with a sunroof. Roll is controlled through chassis and suspension. |
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06-21-2017, 09:56 PM | #28 | |
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06-21-2017, 10:15 PM | #29 |
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Not in USA>.. its a $1050 option on MY '18.
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06-21-2017, 10:49 PM | #30 |
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I believe he was adding the price bump for MY2018 + the cost of the moonroof.
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06-21-2017, 11:06 PM | #32 |
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06-22-2017, 12:28 AM | #33 | |
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99% of the people on this forum would not notice the extra weight up top on the track. On the street, where most of us spend our time, the difference would be even less noticeable. If people are that concerned with weight they should also be stripping all the paint off their car. Thats gotta save at least 30 pounds right there. |
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06-22-2017, 12:58 AM | #34 |
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Totally agree that CF roof is 100% cosmetic and marketing. No performance difference. Any difference in body roll would be negligible, and could easy be accommodated by changing suspension settings.
For the OP, if you really want a moonroof, wait on an '18. It's just a few more months. You should get what you want. |
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06-22-2017, 01:13 AM | #35 |
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Do lighter roofs make a difference?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl...rnational_auto This was when the Evo8MR first launched with an aluminium roof vs the older Evo8 with steel roof. Best Motoring claimed improved stability at high speeds - was due to the reduced weight of the roof. At 12:46. they slap on a 4kg rubber mat on top of the Evo8MR to see the impact of the heavier roof. It is quite interesting. The effect of the aluminium roof is to lower the CG by a mere 3mm. Doesn't seem like much. But to have that same impact by reducing the weight of the front bonnet, you'd have to drop that by 12kg!!! That's a lot. And looking at what they did to bond aluminium and steel - and still prevent leaking.. doesn't sound straightforward so I'd be hesitant about getting a third party CF roof. That said, the heavier roofed car was more unstable under heavy braking and through the slalom - but the driver (who's a Mitsubishi racing team driver) kept the car going with more throttle input to correct - so it ended up faster on the slalom. Last edited by DoggieHowser; 06-22-2017 at 01:47 AM.. |
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06-22-2017, 06:54 AM | #37 |
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I personally use moonroof a lot in all my cars. be it for the sunlight in the cabin, little air ventilation, or just to look at the rain drop in the glass, I love this feature in cars.
But when I get the M2, I'd skip the moonroof because racecar. |
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06-22-2017, 04:49 PM | #40 | |
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1. Adding a 9-pound weight to the top will make your car faster in an autocross, to the tune of perhaps .051 second. (That's 51 thousands of a second, which is enough to give you a few inches of nose across the yard of bricks for the win at the Indy 500.) 2. You car will feel significantly different with the extra weight on the roof, sort of like your eye feels weird all day after the doctor tells you it might feel a little itchy after you poked it. (You just can't ignore it!) 3. WeatherTech has the right materials - maybe they could develop high-speed, all-weather moonroof mats for high-performance vehicles. (I get dibs on the patent - and I may even change my User Name to MoonRoof Matt.) So, if you see an M2 go by with a watermelon wedged into the moonroof hole, you'll know I'm on my way to set Fast Time of the Day at the next autocross. C'mon guys - this has been fun, but really? I trust my butt dyno, but this is over the top. |
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06-22-2017, 06:02 PM | #42 |
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Not sure how tall you are but I'm 6'2.
Sat in a 240i with a roof. If you enjoy concussions at every speed bump and not being able to tilt your head to the left - ever so slightly - go with the moonroof. |
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06-22-2017, 06:05 PM | #43 |
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I'm 6'4....haven't had a concussion this far, not looking for one now
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06-22-2017, 06:07 PM | #44 | |
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