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The time now has really come to put this sensitive issue to rest again 'until further notice'.
Taking my car for a spin tomorrow, regardless of its deck design. As Suzanne Vega sings in her "Language" song: "Words are just the crust of the meaning with realms underneath". Same goes for the engine cover of my car.
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I prefer this thread when there are some vicious comments and insults being thrown around - it makes for a more entertaining read.
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11-20-2016, 03:48 AM | #73 |
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For a few seasons now they have been racing the M235i Racing cup with the N55 engine in it. What should say that?
From the 2015 season(afaik) they have a huge rear spoiler on the boot/trunk. Cheers Robin |
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Since when is "clatter" something that disqualifies an M car? The S54 is one of the most loved engines of all time, and that thing sounds like you're shaking a coffee can full of nails. The N55 sounds silky smooth by comparison.
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I wouldn't be surprised if all they do is change the turbo and increase hp by 15 or 20 and lighten the car in places. It doesn't really need a new engine, or more power (well maybe a bit more would be nicel) , it's so usable with what it has, but it definitely needs to loose about 70kg. I would take no power bump on the n55 and a 70-100kg weight loss any day, that would make the car a different animal
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11-21-2016, 07:43 AM | #78 |
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For the LCI? No way. Can't reduce that much weight without losing strength. I don't see them raising the price substantially, or going backwards in emmisions or fuel economy for an LCI. They'd need a whole new platform.
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It's not 100% reliable as it did not come from BMW. But historically it's been reliable. This has already been pointed out in this thread.
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The BMW 2 Series was launched in late 2013 which means that next year it will be turning four, the age where BMW usually likes to infuse new energy into its models. And they will include the BMW M2 in this mix, according to our sources inside Munich. That?s a bit unexpected as the M car was launched considerably later down the line compared to the standard 2 Series. However, you shouldn?t expect big changes to happen as the German manufacturer and the clients themselves are quite happy with the car already. Most likely, we?ll see the introduction of a new front and rear-end design, mostly focused on the headlights and taillights. Chances are we?ll even get to see some more new tech thrown into the mix, as the 2 Series doesn?t get the full spectrum of Bavarian innovations at the moment. The engines powering the 2 Series models out there are already almost completely part of the modular B-family with the exception of the BMW 220i and the 225d. Those will most likely be upgraded as well to the B48 and B47 units in different power output guises. The 220i will get the same 192 HP unit as the MINI Cooper S, bumping the hp reading by 8 HP while the 225d will have 231 HP. As for the BMW M2 little is known. The N55 engine is likely to continue on, as BMW rarely upgrades the engine inside M cars once the LCI is launched. However, the M2 is and always was a peculiar model from a couple of points of view. It doesn?t use a BMW Motorsport engine, developed from the ground up, but an enhanced version of the N55. That?s what could force the hand of the management team to move on up to the B58 mill, to comply with changing laws regarding pollution and CO2 emissions. That definitely won?t be a loss for the car as it would gain a bit more torque throughout the rev range. |
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On Marklines (Industry research site) they don't even show a LCI for the 2 series, and show a refresh to the "CLAR" platform mid way thorough 2019. Interestingly, they show the Z5 in 2018 on a Toyota Platform.... Not saying this site is golden and I see its missing things (no Audi RS or M models called out in the production plan for instance), but refreshes are generally shown.
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Surf a bit around on that particular website featuring very detailed BMW info since 1928 and judge for yourself.
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Plenty of open deck designed motors out there pushing over 400lbs of tq. And they don't make 400 tq stock it's 382 to the wheels with overboost on a dynojet on its best day on a cool day. Top gear solutions just dynoed 2 M's, manual and DCT. Do some reading and research before spouting off and insulting people. You're making yourself look foolish.
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