[m2 baby]

The stock m2 is such a beast of a car but I am looking to spice it up. I was interested in getting Dinan power package p2. I've heard many times the argument that Dinan is over priced but you pay for quality and warranty. I get that but I guess my question is ignoring the warranty part of the debate how does Dinan modded cars preform compared to stock? Is it a subtle or a noticeable difference because 7k is not cheap. Any advice would help due to the fact that nobody really talks about the difference between stock and p2. Or is there a different company I should look into?

[ZM2]

Definite power bump, and it makes the car a lot of fun.

If you’re not worried about warranty, the Dinan Turbo, bootmod3, and a Wagner Evo II Comp intercooler will get you a little more power with smoother delivery.

[m2 baby]

Dinan advertises 450ish hp and torque, is this to the wheels or crank? Because I have seen stock m2 dyno runs all over the place.

[Anthony1s]

This has been covered so many times. P2 and S2 are the same in power. Any of these links will give you enough information, as well as the dozens of threads in this forum talking about it.

https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-bm...des-1793961890

https://autoweek.com/article/drive-r...ew-dinan-s2-m2

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/f...neering-s2-m2/

[m2 baby]

Is there any other mod I should look into like headers or a down pipe if i get the p2 package?

[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by m2 baby

Is there any other mod I should look into like headers or a down pipe if i get the p2 package?

You said you didn't care about warranty, so these upgrades will do you better than Dinan P2 pack. Same or more power, same or better quality, cheaper parts, cheaper to install.

Fabspeed Catted Downpipe - $1400
Wagner Evo2 Comp Intercooler - $950
Bootmod3 Stg2 Tune - $600

Prices are off the top of my head, and you can get them for cheaper too. Some retailers have forum member discounts, if you ask them.

Adding a downpipe to the dinan p2 pack is fairly useless without a different tune, I'd say.

[ZM2]

The big difference bn the above and adding the turbo into the mix is the turbo will pull peak power to redline. The stock turbo with the mods above starts to lose power above 6k rpm.

The turbo makes a big difference on track, if you’re into that. If not, the mod list above is good for the street.

[NtownM2]

I have Dinan Stage 4, Turbo, Fuel Pump, Wagner Intercooler, Fabspeed catted downpipe and Remus exhaust. Big difference over stock, very happy with the upgrades

[m2 baby]

Originally Posted by NtownM2

I have Dinan Stage 4, Turbo, Fuel Pump, Wagner Intercooler, Fabspeed catted downpipe and Remus exhaust. Big difference over stock, very happy with the upgrades

How reliable has it been for you? Do you know what you are making to the wheels as well and if you do what kind of fuel are you using?

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

Adding a downpipe to the dinan p2 pack is fairly useless without a different tune, I'd say.

The Fabspeed sport cat dp yields the same results regardless of any tune of lack thereof.

[NtownM2]

Originally Posted by m2 baby

How reliable has it been for you? Do you know what you are making to the wheels as well and if you do what kind of fuel are you using?

Was never concerned with how much power, just know its made a huge difference in performance. Running Shell Nitro 93 gas.

[NtownM2]

Originally Posted by m2 baby

How reliable has it been for you? Do you know what you are making to the wheels as well and if you do what kind of fuel are you using?

Have had no issues so far!

[kpaso]

Is the added power worth 7k? No.

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by kpaso

Is the added power worth 7k? No.

Do you have firsthand experience to back this statement?

[NtownM2]

Originally Posted by kpaso

Is the added power worth 7k? No.

My setup didn't cost anywhere near $7K.

[seanyx11]

@NTownM2
I'm pretty new to all of this, but I've been checking prices for a while now on pretty much your exact setup. How did you manage a Dinan stage 4, turbo, fuel pump, Fabspeed catted DP, Wagner FMIC, and Remus exhaust for less than 7k?

The Dinan stage 4 and turbo is like $3500 with no core (not sure how much cheaper it is with core) and Remus exhaust is around $2800. That's $6300 not including $1400 for DP, $900 wagner EVO II comp, plus at least $240 for fuel pump build kit, and installation costs (unless you did it all yourself, though a lot of people pay to have it done). So, we're at $8840 without install.

Not trying to disagree with you, just curious how you were able to get all that for less than $7k. Hook me up 🙏

[kpaso]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

Do you have firsthand experience to back this statement?

It would really boil down to personal opinion. To you, the added hp might be worth 7k. To someone else, 100hp for 7,000 dollars is a fucking joke. It is in NO way worth it for 7k to me.

I do have personal experience adding 150whp to another vehicle for far less than 7k. Which makes the idea of adding 100 to an M2 for 7k downright laughable.

But like I said, everyone will have a different opinion on whether it is worth it for 7k.

Originally Posted by NtownM2

My setup didn't cost anywhere near $7K.

I was referring to the OP's post.

[Poochie]

I bought the Dinantronics Stage 1 piggyback for $325, used on eBay, so no warranty. If you purchase the hardware individually online, you can spend like 4-5k for everything minus the labor.

The harness is braided and feels sturdy, well though-out and you can tell it's a quality (handmade) cable.

The Dinantronics ECU sits on tops the fuse box and from what I understand it contains a fast processor, which sample data 4,000 times a second. The unit plugs directly into the vehicle's ECU, then routed back to the engine harness. It being able to intercept all the engine's sensors and alter it before the ECU does, gives it full control over its entire logic.

It was a bitch to install because the engine's ECU harness in buried in a tight spot, so you have to squeeze in and feel around to hit the release. My hand afterwards looked like I got into a fight with four cats.

What I feel it does is add smooth power right up to the redline, instead of tapering down when the over-boost times out.. It's not massive but you do feel discernible a different in power output.

I didn't want to get a flash because there is still a lot of unknowns with aftermarket tunes and this motor. Also, I'm worried about failing emissions; with a tune, they disable the catalytic converter plus MAF sensor and in NY if their computer shows that more than one emission control device is not in a "ready" state, you don't pass. With a piggyback, you can just unplug it, no altering the stock mapping.

I suggest you get the stage 4 ECU right out the bat, which requires a upgraded turbo and intercooler but you can use their APP and toggle down from stage 1-4, depending on which hardware you have. In my case, I can only use the APP to bypass the tune.

[NtownM2]

Originally Posted by seanyx11

@NTownM2
I'm pretty new to all of this, but I've been checking prices for a while now on pretty much your exact setup. How did you manage a Dinan stage 4, turbo, fuel pump, Fabspeed catted DP, Wagner FMIC, and Remus exhaust for less than 7k?

The Dinan stage 4 and turbo is like $3500 with no core (not sure how much cheaper it is with core) and Remus exhaust is around $2800. That's $6300 not including $1400 for DP, $900 wagner EVO II comp, plus at least $240 for fuel pump build kit, and installation costs (unless you did it all yourself, though a lot of people pay to have it done). So, we're at $8840 without install.

Not trying to disagree with you, just curious how you were able to get all that for less than $7k. Hook me up 🙏

I was talked about the Dinan and Wagner upgrade, I didn't include cost of Fabspeed and Remus in my comment. Altogether, yes around $7K.

[CoffeeLife]

Originally Posted by kpaso

It would really boil down to personal opinion. To you, the added hp might be worth 7k. To someone else, 100hp for 7,000 dollars is a fucking joke. It is in NO way worth it for 7k to me.

I do have personal experience adding 150whp to another vehicle for far less than 7k. Which makes the idea of adding 100 to an M2 for 7k downright laughable.

But like I said, everyone will have a different opinion on whether it is worth it for 7k.



I was referring to the OP's post.

I'm curious what vehicle did you add 150whp to for under 7k? Was it already tuned like the M2 prior to do something more? Was it a NA V8 that you added a SC to? Was it a 20 year old used NA V6 that you slapped a used turbo on bringing it from 120whp to 300 before blowing the engine? All of these are relevant if you are going to rip on someone looking for support from the community.

[kpaso]

Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

I'm curious what vehicle did you add 150whp to for under 7k? Was it already tuned like the M2 prior to do something more? Was it a NA V8 that you added a SC to? Was it a 20 year old used NA V6 that you slapped a used turbo on bringing it from 120whp to 300 before blowing the engine? All of these are relevant if you are going to rip on someone looking for support from the community.

It was a 2007 STi. Stage 2 alone added significant HP for dirt cheap. Threw on a stock location 30r turbo and some supporting mods and was well under 7k with no issues.

Not sure why you seem to have taken personal offense to my statement. Never did I rip in someone looking for support for the community. The person I was responding to expressed concern at the cost of the Dinan Stage 4 setup and I expressed my opinion that the power added is not worth 7,000 dollars. A tuned stage 2 package is more bang for your buck IMO.

I then explained that it all comes down to your personal opinion. For others, it very well may be worth 7k, hands down. For me, it's not and I explained why.

Sorry to have upset you. I'm also sorry you can't fathom other vehicles that can gain 100whp for less than 7,000 dollars except for the examples you put forth.

Edit: And it was 185 whp for under 7k.

[cecaa850]

Originally Posted by kpaso

The person I was responding to expressed concern at the cost of the Dinan Stage 4 setup and I expressed my opinion that the power added is not worth 7,000 dollars. A tuned stage 2 package is more bang for your buck IMO.

I then explained that it all comes down to your personal opinion. For others, it very well may be worth 7k, hands down. For me, it's not and I explained why.

That was the same boat I was in. I was going all Dinan stage 4 at first. After doing a lot of reading I've decided just to use their turbo then add BM3, sport cat, a non-Dinan IC with charge, intercooler and inlet piping. Seems to be a much better bang for the buck. I'll have the turbo done during the 1200 mile service which should be next month.