[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

You can't be serious. There's something very appealing about a small, rwd coupe or sedan with fully defeatable traction control. Our 135i was only a limited slip away from being a great car, something they fixed (plus a lot more) with the 1M.

The ATS is a drivetrain away from being better all around than the F3x, once the IS250 gets a turbo four it will likely be a better all around package than the 328i and the C400 and Jag XE also likely offer a better experience for many owners. BMW is giving up on the folks that got them here. They're still making plenty of money though, so it likely doesn't matter.

Now if Porsche will just build a small sedan with three pedals...

I would disagree...chassis yes the ATS is nimble and fun but drivetrain sucks...that crappy four banger is no where near the refinement of the N20 engine. I am sure Lexus will put a nice smooth four banger in the IS250 but to me...something still feels isolated about the new IS'......