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      12-09-2019, 10:35 AM   #627
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Weighing up the M2CS versus Porsche offerings is an apple vs. oranges comparison, no?

Understanding that nearly all BMWs are a front engine/rear drive layout that offers 4 seats and more versatility and practicality to what Porsche has on offer in the same price bracket (a Cayman or Boxter in S or maybe GTS trim) then the M2CS is a more compelling offer with the practicality that it adds. If you don't need a back seat or a trunk then go buy a Porsche, nobody is stopping you! I agree that at $83k USD the value is harder to justify... and it should be closer to $75k USD as many people have already said.

Concerning the weight, it is the F87 chassis with nearly all development thrown at it (other than a lithium ion battery, CF front fenders, CF trunk and maybe a CF driveshaft). What more can be done? Do you want a car with no interior or no sound deadening? So many people complain that they want a lighter car. All cars are getting heavier right now. Reading the complaints you would think that BMW deliberately made it heavier!

How much does the new C8 Corvette weigh? The new 992? The Mustang GT350 or GT500?

There are so many posts of complaining that the weight is too high. Okay, so if BMW did put EVERYTHING they have into the CS how much more weight would it lose? Another 50lbs? Ok, so then that would be the magic number and everyone would stop complaining then, right?

No? then go buy a Porsche or a Lotus! Oh, wait you need a back seat and they're too expensive?

All of this and nobody has even driven the car yet!

It's funny to read all of the bitching that was posted about the 1M when the specs were released on that. Same old story; "parts bin car" "not special enough" etc, etc.
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