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Originally Posted by Robin_NL
GT4 more fun than any BMW on sale today? Seriously?
I have a mate who drives the shit out of his 1M and has a GT4 Mk1 too, the guy can drive and does so. He prefers the 1M, by a margin, GT4 Mk1 way too long gearing(Mk2 same story, look up the car tests), no playfulness on the backend with those wide tyres and 'no torque' down low and middle revs.
Another mate sold his GT3 Clubsport(2010 bought new) because of all of the above. Too wide tyres to make it step out in the dry and have some adrenalin fun with it PLUS the speeds had to be absurd to get some 'now I'm driving fast' vs 1M/M2/C type of cars.
So 'fun' is a really specific thing for people and for many people 'fun' means something else in a car.
'Porsches' are on another level of what? Maybe only build quality but for the rest be more specific please.
Some GT's are and yes a GT4 is more than awesome, so is a GT3RS/GT2RS( Manthey spec is my favourite car today on sale) but so are a few M models.
And yes turn in etc is something special in many GT3/4s but so is our M2/C. do'nt bring M2/C down. The //M LSD we have is a real lsd. No brake intrusive vectoring thingy Porsche uses on ALL roadgoing cars incl the GT stuff.....(many people do not know that specific brake lsd tech thingy on all Porsches)
Depending on situations M2C turns in equally or 'better' than any Cayman this side of a GT4. And sometimes 'better'than a GT4 with 'no weight' on the front end. Look it up in serious carmags like Sportauto from Germany.
So, FUN is not just being the more razorsharp car the GT4 is vs our M2C which it is.
My idea of FUN is also being to control a car in the wet and dry in a manner you want, with throttle. Understeer is so far away in real life in an M2/C.
According to (ex) Porsche guys above it's further away than their(ex) Porsches. And those guys drive their cars hard on Zandvoort/Assen/Nordschleife and Papenburg etc(and so do I lol)
Still: I love the Porsche brand for their GT2/3/4. The rest not so much. Sorry 
Cheers
Robin |
Like I said in my post, I loved my M2C, the best and (in my opinion) only fun BMW on sale today, but in my experience of driving both the GT4 MK1 and my M2C on track, the experience is a world's of differences and I prefer the GT4. We can both pull as many examples of people we know who went from BMW to Porsche or vice versa but remember at the end of the day its all opinion. In the end, I still stand by my statement, the Porsche GT cars are simply on another level, they are precision tools with tactile feedback coming through every area of input and are just completely rewarding to drive, not saying the M2C isn't, because it certainly is, especially compared to the F8X to which its based on, but there is a reason why the GT4 receives critical acclaim and holds its value very well. In the end, I am just glad both brands are still selling great driver's cars, and I can't wait until my father-in-law gets his 718 GT4 so I can drive it and try it around a track.