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      12-16-2019, 03:40 PM   #773
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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow View Post
You don't sound like a fanboy

For sure there has always been a certain 'value' proposition with M cars. Now they are experimenting with higher and higher pricing for doing tweaks. You could argue that the most beloved car company for many forum people, Porsche, does the same thing.

Those tweaks are noticeable, in the same way a Cayman GTS feels different than a Cayman S... but are they worth the $?

The CS formula is expensive, for sure. It's also stuff that you don't find in many paper competitors. How many cars for 84k have a CF hood and roof?

The market has certainly spoken regarding the M3/4 CS. Bad envy is real. I don't find they were overpriced and have an M3 CS, but clearly most people did.
I've always thought they should have a comp package as well as a 'comp comp package' which is what the CS brings to the table.
It's funny you mention the Cayman S vs. GTS - I made the mistake of getting a 981CS and trying to "build" it into a GTS. That was very costly.

The CS formula is awesome when you look at how they've distinguished the M2 variety...CF roof, 763Ms standard, working vent on the hood, etc...it's just the price that holds me back. Like I said, I think the car will be brilliant, I just can't bring myself to spend that much on an M2 (my wife has an OG M2 in the garage, and my dad has one too), and I have a spot.

My original estimate, way back when the CS was first rumored, was 85K. But I had hoped I would be wrong, and that BMW would have learned from the F80/82 CS pricing experiment. I was hoping for low to mid 70s, which I would gladly pay.

PS - the M3CS is the best sounding S55...I have an F80 ZCP, so I would know.
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