[Pyrat 2]

Originally Posted by Bennu

I really hope they do this but honestly they don't need to go pass 400HP. 375-380 is all they need to be competitive. I always thought they could go bold and make this with more power to weight than the new F80/F83 m3/m4 but I think a lot of people will not be happy about that.

Let's look at what BMW has said about the M235i vs the 1M to get some perspective of what the new M2 could be like.
Klaus Froehlich, Senior Vice President Brand and product Strategies at BMW said it's already faster than a 1M on the Nurburgring. That's faster than 8:15. The E92 did it in 8:05 which is a 10 second difference.
Adding more 78+ hp to the M2 vs M235i with better suspension, making it lighter and adding better brakes and internals will make the M2 even faster than the E92 M3 and possibly beating the F82M4 as well. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

What they could do is make it as fast as an E92 M3 so they will prob only need to add about 50 more HP, lose 100 pounds, add wider tires with all the other M goodies to achieve that.

I'd be happy if it's just as fast as an E92 M3 but more nimble and easier to toss around.

Hmmm. Not to start a controversy but I have yet to have a stock e92 M3 out run my stock135is on the track. I'm not saying I'm faster. I'm just saying it hasn't happened yet and I've had direct 1:1 competition with a couple M3s at HPDEs. We've always been neck and neck with no one pulling against the other car. We then swap lead and tail car and again no one pulls against the other. Maybe it's that the 135is has slightly more torque than the e92. In any event I have no doubt that an M2 will out perform an e92 m3 especially since all evidence to date shows that the 235 is faster than the 135is. Will it beat an F82M4. Don't know?..