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      05-27-2019, 01:07 PM   #270
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Agreed. To reach a stable power of 450hp, an OG needs a big FMIC + bigger turbo + new CP+IP+DV + chip tune, amounting to about 4500$. Which is no so much compared to the price of the car. For instance, it is less then the price of the M-perf hood alone that you have on the M2CS and not on the M2(C).
Furthermore with a milder tune (chip + FMIC), an OG reaches the 410hp of the M2C, and for 'only' 1500$. So I don't really see your point here



For having an LCI and having tested a M2C, the only differences I noticed in this latter were the M-seats, the M1M2 buttons on the wheel, the new buttons close to the DKG stick, and the start button now in red. The dashboard and iDrive were exactly the same. In fact, in many countries, the M-seats are optional on the M2C, its "base" seats being the very same than the OG. So it's hard for me to see the OG/LCI interior outdated compared to the M2C
Compared to a brand new G20, yes the M2 interior looks outdated ... as do the interiors of the M2C and CS.



That's the beauty of the development of the M2 serie: most new stuffs are retrofittable on previous models. For instance, I have a M2C M-mirrors and seatbelts on my LCI, and soon its carbon strut brace. The more versions of the M2 are produced, the largest the choice for tuning your M2(C) at your will, which is great!
So if your point is that a M2C can be transformed into something very close to a M2CS, I agree. But it would cost really a lot. Here is my estimate: suspension= 5k$, hood= 5k$, roof= 4k$, fenders= 4k$, boot= 3k$, tune= 500$, wheel=1k$, seats = 5k$, total=26.5k$. And that is not yet a real, limited-edition M2CS, it is just a tuned m2C for which you will lose a lot at sale.

1. I've seen a lot of big numbers on FBO OG M2's yet have never seen proper v-box/gps tracking to showcase the actual improvements in real life scenarios. If you can prove me wrong with proper footage I'll rest my case but the lack of proper evidence makes me believe those gains don't really convert to much. This said, power delivery and overall drivability of the car with FBO and a non-BMW tune isn't that great or reliable. This argument vs M2CS official map on M2C is bit of a apples and oranges argument.

2. When I say OG M2, I'm referring to the pre-lci variant. Rear/Front headlights, dashboard, iDrive to name a few just for that. M2C big upgrades are M-Seats and mirrors but there's also a lot of minor trivial thing's that add to it. MSRP gap of price between M2 and M2C wasn't that big, but the upgrades where huge starting from the engine itself.

3. My argument is not much about the cost of upgradability but rather the ease of upgradability. BMW should have made custom designed parts, not fish inside the regular M2C catalog. How can you consider the M2CS special if any M2C can easily aspire to become one. Even the extra stuff like the Adaptive Suspensions and Seats are pretty much recycled stuff from the M4. Come to think of it, even the tune as a baseline is probably recycled from the M4CS. It's not too unrealistic to actually interpret the continuous testing done as them struggling making it work without it becoming a future liability. Zero innovation and lazy approach.
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