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      09-19-2019, 04:57 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
The data sheet you posted says that the M2 CS test car featured optional M-CCB: "Keramik (optional)". Look also at the indicated 15K price delta (base price versus test car price) which could be explained by M-CCB for a significant part.

According to the same data sheet:
  • the tested M2 Competition (M-DCT) weighed 1631 kg (full tank of fuel included), apparently had no M Driver's Package (because data sheet notes V-max of 250 km/u (stock: electronically limited V-max) - Parabolika speed 232 km/h), featured steel brakes, was sitting on Pilot Super Sport tires (likely on 19" 788M wheels) and was driving in 1°C/34°F air temp + 1°C/34°F track temp and 1020 mbar air pressure;
  • the tested M2 CS (M-DCT) weighed 1588 kg (full tank of fuel included), apparently had M Driver's Package (because data sheet notes V-max of 280 km/h (delimited V-max) - Parabolika speed 248 km/h), featured M-CCB (carbon ceramic brakes - bigger rotors), was sitting on Cup 2 tires (likely on lightweight 19" 763M wheels) and was driving in 32°C/90°F air temp + 53°C/127°F track temp and 1015 mbar air pressure.
Hm, judging merely by those figures, it looks like the M2 Competition - considering its setup and near freezing point test circumstances - wasn't particularly blown out of the water/ice by the better equipped and more powerful M2 CS pushed around the track in warm weather on hot asphalt.
So to "even out" the comparison they fitted the M2C w/the same brakes otherwise they are comparing stock M2C to stock M2CS, which probably accounts for the tire difference.

So what I learned/confirmed from this is that comparing cars based on spec sheets is only relevant for bragging rights (40 HP more, 100 LBS less) vs. real world performance.

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT View Post
The CS gets the 6-4 MP steel brake standard. Not necessarily the CCB fitted with the car tested.
Since the M2CS appears to be an M2C + M Performance car.

For example, the M2CS has the 768M but w/the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires, which is the only 768M package the dealer can order. Yes, we went back and forth w/BMW on my M2C order and I could've gotten the 768M wheels only instead of the 788M but it was a special request not a check box on the system and there was no credit for the 788M wheels.

So I wonder if by using the 2NH red calipers if the M2CS is also fitted w/the track pads that are included in the retrofit kit instead of the street pads?

Last edited by omasou; 09-19-2019 at 05:07 PM..
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