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Originally Posted by msmiljanic
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Originally Posted by Artemis
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Originally Posted by acl26
revert back to stock and try to fight for warranty?
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Wait a minute: so you bought the car with a set of OEM parameters. You changed parameters in order "to push the envelope" of engine management. You push the car on track and the engine breaks down after a couple of limp modes. And you suggest to conceal the parameter changes with a reflash to stock parameters in order to claim factory warranty ?
That's dishonest and may qualify as fraud.
Manufacturers warrant what they conceived. Not what aftermarket tuners make from it.
Don't be naïve: BMW only needs to run your VIN through their system to call up information that is logged, documenting what the car has gone through. And, unfortunately for you, it logs more info than you think. If you try to screw them, they will find out.
And if you go after the engine management tuning company, tell us how they handled your claim. Don't be surprised if they would tell you that no causal link is proved between their tune and the engine damage. And so you're left to your own devices. |
This is not a discussion of fraud or ethics. It's a warranty claim where the FTC has confirmed that the use of aftermarket parts does not automatically void a warranty of a OEM part. So why set yourself up for an obtuse and unscientific response due to the mere presence of aftermarket parts and shift the burden of proof when that burden is on the manufacture to demonstrate that the aftermarket part caused the issue. The fact that Dinan is willing to warranty these engines with a piggyback using similar modifications tells you something (I wonder if this could happen with Dinan). Let's discuss root cause and risk for those modifying as opposed to legal terms and ethics.
As a user of BM3 stg 2 on 93 AKI Texas, I am trying to determine if the 98 RON map is to aggressive increasing the risk enough in non track situations. I do see some knocks logged here and there. Halim said don't worry about it. I am thinking of downgrading to the 91 map to decrease the risk. |
He has parts and an aftermarket tune installed on his vehicle when the motor blew, which allow/forces the vehicle the operate at a higher output of power that is deemed approved by the manufacture.
Now he wants to remove those said power enhancement, hide this fact that he used them and try to get the manufacture to pay for the repairs of his vehicle.
That is the definition of warranty fraud.
It doesn't matter if the aftermarket parts or tune caused the motor blew on the track, which it 100% is the reason BTW, trying to conceal these related facts from the manufacture is
wrong.
Dinan doesn't instruct their customers to remove the piggyback when you take the vehicle in for repairs but instead they have their own warranty that supplements the manufacture's coverage in cases like these, so your argument is moot to this subject.
I'm not judging, I would do the same thing if I was the OP but at least I won't be in denial and try to sway the circumstances, however, won't be upset if they deny my claim
