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Originally Posted by Wah
I thought this was relevant here even though the OP said not including dealers. This dealership here in NJ is asking $20k over the $84K msrp. 
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I went out to look at this car before I bought mine, applied for financing, and dealer told me at the last minute they wanted 20k over. I actually reported them to BMW corporate over shady business practices.
They told me before I went to look at it that it was MSRP.