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      10-10-2019, 10:28 PM   #137
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Originally Posted by VisualEcho View Post
Here's a few quotes from the salesperson. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to throw this guy under the bus, I just want to make sure I'm buying something that isn't going to cause my car issues in the future, and if the Wagner will, then I won't be purchasing it. But if it won't, then why not save the coin if I'm getting a flash anyway?

"Our product is in a completely different league of reliability than Wagner. There is no comparison. This is also why we offer a lifetime warranty and they don't. Wagner knows they cant compensate for the amount of the issues that come with their cats. We have our cats on thousands of cars and never have issues outside of customer installation mistakes."

"We have had customers purchase the Wagner system, then have an issue (the cat design breaking apart in the downpipe) and end up purchasing our system. I have seen a large amount of Wagner systems fail (including mine)."
FYI good thread to read through to see how fabspeed deals with their so called "never have issues" and the run around given for a simple warranty claim:
CEL on FS Downpipe!!

Not saying they have a bad product since I used to have their sport cat before going catless.
Like what Mike said. if you're stock tuned and don't want the CEL get the fabspeed since they have a proven track record with very low instances of CEL.
Wagner has higher chance of CEL. If you're tuned get the wager and save some coin since you can hide the O2 CEL with the ECU tune
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