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      09-27-2019, 10:36 AM   #63
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The powertrain was the star of the show in my 16' M3 as well, it just fell apart everywhere else.

From stability/traction control algorithms, to rear-end instability, to poor rebound shock damping tuning, to brakes that would vibrate, to squeaks in the cabin.

I had my SS 1LE and M3 together for 3 weeks before my lease turn in on the M3 and there is no doubt on paper they are close, but driving them back to back the M3 feels quite a bit quicker. The feel of the powertrain from the DCT to the motor , it was sublime, but that is where the advantages ended.

I know we are talking M2 here, but the M2 still suffers from a lot that the M3 did, just not so much so and on a shorter wheel base.
BMW really needs to address their biggest deficit: Numb, uninspiring steering feel.
I find it very confusing as to why this is a problem on M cars. Everytime there's a prototype drive of any BMW, there's usually a portion in the article in which they talk about discussing steering with a programmer and the programmer mentions that he can tune it to have feel, but that the GP doesn't want it. Ok, I guess that makes sense on your bread and butter 330i and X3, where you have to cater to the general public, but on an M car, why do they isolate the car from the road in regards to steering? I doubt many M-owners are writing in their surveys "we want less steering feel!"

We know BMW has the technology and fine-tuning to fix their steering, and even they get upset with the constant criticism of their steering (when the G20 was launched, one of the BMW higher up's complained about consumers complaining about modern BMWs). Its getting really embarrassing to see that even almost a decade later, BMW is still failing in the steering department. Even cars like the Mazda 3 have more feedback and have tuned their EPS fairly well. Granted they aren't E46 levels of feel, but they aren't completely devoid of feel, and this is on a ~$20k compact car!

Luckily cars like the M2 impress in many other areas, making the steering more "forgivable," but its really sad seeing the stark contrast of BMW having great steering feel to now having some of the worst.
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