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Originally Posted by chad86tsi
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Originally Posted by jmg
I didn't say it was a 100kwh battery. I said it was a 60kwh battery.
Read my post again:
OP link states a $120k Tesla, which is a Plaid, with a 100kwh battery.
Well you did say:
Which is not compatible with it being 63% cheaper like I just showed with proof, so you are fundamentally more wrong.
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Did you read the OP's link, or just skim it. It's not a $120K plaid, nor a 100Kw battery. It's a 2013 Tesla model S, and a current replacement battery replacement is $26,000
your link also supplied a 2013 Tesla model S with a 60KW pack that cost $35,000.
You quoted in another article that in 2012 batteries cost $40,000 new.
You showed charts and stated facts that batteries have come down 90%.
Using your facts (figures), those batteries should be $3000 - $6000 today depending on size. A 2012 $40,000 60Kw battery should be $4000 today not $26,000 today.
The AUDI and Chevy EV batteries cost is well over $30K or more today too, as are others. These should be $3000-6000 using your $/KW and 90% formulas.
Kind of hard to debate your facts if the math isn't correct. Either your math is wrong, your facts or wrong, or how you use them is. I'll let you decide.
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My mistake. I did not read all the way to the section where it said it was a 2013 S. I'm guessing the 2013 S had a 60kwh battery?
That's a $443/kwh cost to replace today vs $707/kwh in 2013. That's about 37% less. $26k vs $44k adjusted for inflation.
The 90% I quoted was for the cost of manufacturing a new battery based on several articles I read. Like I mentioned in my previous post, that does not mean that's how much it would cost to replace an old battery, which includes ancillary charges for labor and parts etc. Additionally, this is a legacy part. Perhaps the newer batteries are, in fact, cheaper, but this one isn't because it's an older battery?
Regardless, you said they were going up. 37% less is a decrease in price.
I did a search on MODERN Teslas and found this article which included labor:
https://www.recurrentauto.com/resear...lacement-costs
The Tesla 3 cost $16k and the article says $180/kwh including labor. That's 75% less than the $707/kwh. Still also not an increase in price.