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      04-03-2024, 12:44 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by chris719 View Post
2024 model year cars with S58 are showing LL17FE+ only in the manual. This is a 0W-20 generally. HTHS must 2.6 min. Mid SAPS.

I have not seen the lastest TIS pages, but as recently as late 2022, TIS was showing LL-01FE as the recommended oil for North American S58 and full LL-01 still being technically suitable. As I don't think S58 has had any revision since it showed up in the M3/M4, I would guess TIS would still show at least LL-01FE being suitable. Just my opinion but I would never track one with 0W-20, although I guess S58 has such good cooling it may not be a problem in theory. I'm still just not comfortable running that oil at any time in an M engine.
Yeah that doesn't not sound like an oil that would offer any good levels of protection on track. It sucks that emissions is driving thinner and thinner oils these days.

It's still better than the 0w8 oil I saw Toyota using in the crown...
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