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      10-12-2019, 02:14 PM   #58
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Even more complicated, is that there are two different power outputs - US and Europe...which would make comparisons harder.
Not that hard. Car and Driver is a US mag and they can run a US car around the lap. Then they can get off their asses and do a reasonable US comparison to S4, C43, and M340i. Maybe even throw the Stinger in there for good measure.
But when someone eventually takes one around the Nordschleife, it will likely be a Euro version and all the guys in the US will cry "foul"!

But yes, I would be interested to see how it stacks up. Just need to understand which version.
Nurburgring is irrelevant to this category of car. Save it for the track ready rides M, AMG, RS, Porsche, etc. I want street numbers and if they're gonna run OEM miatas and Camrys around VIR, then run the M-Performance car too!
I agree that very few will actually drive like that - although I took one of my F10 5 series to the ring a few years ago, albeit it was only a humble 530d SE (with adaptive drive).

I think good handling is important and appreciate being able to compare cars. Handling to me matters more than 0-60, as where I live, the roads have lots of bends.

If a car was half a second slower to 60, but handled better, that would tick more boxes for me, but I know we are all different.

So I don't really care if it's the Ring or VIR where cars are compared, as long as they are compared, as it is useful to know how they hustle. What I am sure we would agree with is that whilst 1970 muscle cars look cool, they were known for lots of power, but not going around corners!
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