[M-Supra]

2018 M2 DCT
Wagner Performance EVO2 Intercooler
VRSF Catless DP
3" Cut out on factory non-MPE exhaust
NGK 97506 gapped to .020

Just did a quick 4th gear pull, HPFP keeping up and NOT dropping! Hot as Hades here in ATL, pulls hard with no noticeable break up above 5K RPM that I was experiencing on other tunes (plugs probably solved this).

Should be making close to 400WHP if not more, I'll dyno at Technica Motorsports to verify, feels nasty, not as nasty as my 966WHP M5, but damn strong!

Gauges in car show 460FWHP and 430FWTQ.

Those that understand logs please chime in.

1.5 cans Torco + 93 at fill up.

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5b2581e1d10b4304d3cee32d

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Overall it looks strong from my perspective but the pull is too short. How much Torco you running? What was the ambient temp

Do a longer pull...start your pull at 2k all the way to 6.5k. That will put more load on everything and give a better picture plus IAT's will increase. Always do pulls like that. And if you can do a 3rd, them 4th and then a 5th.....

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by m2ruder

Overall it looks strong from my perspective but the pull is too short. How much Torco you running? What was the ambient temp

Do a longer pull...start your pull at 2k all the way to 6.5k. That will put more load on everything and give a better picture plus IAT's will increase. Always do pulls like that. And if you can do a 3rd, them 4th and then a 5th.....

Yes, will do more complete pulls and post up for analysis...had just put in colder plugs and changed DP to VRSF catless from Wagner 200 this afternoon then did this log in ATL traffic, approximately 93-96 degrees and mucho humidity, too many targets on the road

1.5 cans Torco + 93 at fill up.

Thanks for your guidance!

Cleve

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Originally Posted by M-Supra

Yes, will do more complete pulls and post up for analysis...had just put in colder plugs and changed DP to VRSF catless from Wagner 200 this afternoon then did this log in ATL traffic, approximately 93-96 degrees and mucho humidity, too many targets on the road

1.5 cans Torco + 93 at fill up.

Thanks for your guidance!

Cleve

Based on that what would you estimate your octane at? I have read that MMT additive at the most will only give you 3 octanes at full concentration. Adding more gains nothing

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by m2ruder

Based on that what would you estimate your octane at? I have read that MMT additive at the most will only give you 3 octanes at full concentration. Adding more gains nothing

http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...r-ratio-93.pdf

1-32oz can should be sufficient for our small tanks but due to heat in ATL, I added another 16oz for margin

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by m2ruder

Overall it looks strong from my perspective but the pull is too short. How much Torco you running? What was the ambient temp

Do a longer pull...start your pull at 2k all the way to 6.5k. That will put more load on everything and give a better picture plus IAT's will increase. Always do pulls like that. And if you can do a 3rd, them 4th and then a 5th.....

M2ruder,

Just did this pull getting on 400N, its 98 degrees according to car thermometer and high humidity, ATL is approximately 1000' ASL

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5b26a977d10b4304d3cee4f5

[FSociety]

According to Demon owner he uses Boostane 8oz + 5gals of 93 for 100oct.
Obviously you need a little more for Torco. Did anyone reach out to Torco to see what is required for Turbo applications?

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Interesting...the race gas map targets maybe .5-1 psi more boost than the stg 2 93 but it allows more timing advance. Your up in the 11-12 range but it was pulling back timing late in the 4th gear pull but no knock was registered.

I like your IAT's you had a +18 deg increase on your full pull. I did a similar pull on the stg 2 93 and had a +28deg with just the 5in stepped HD core IC and stock DP. I wonder if it is the catless DP that is helping you with slightly cooler turbo temps, don't think the Wagner Performance EVO2 is doing it all its self. Anyway fuel pump is stable

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by m2ruder

Interesting...the race gas map targets maybe .5-1 psi more boost than the stg 2 93 but it allows more timing advance. Your up in the 11-12 range but it was pulling back timing late in the 4th gear pull but no knock was registered.

I like your IAT's you had a +18 deg increase on your full pull. I did a similar pull on the stg 2 93 and had a +28deg with just the 5in stepped HD core IC and stock DP. I wonder if it is the catless DP that is helping you with slightly cooler turbo temps, don't think the Wagner Performance EVO2 is doing it all its self. Anyway fuel pump is stable

It also runs quite a bit leaner which will add power.

For sure this map requires a strong healthy FBO car with _VERY_ good octane. It also has some throttle safety disabled ( to prevent throttle closure on slight overboost )

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by FSociety

According to Demon owner he uses Boostane 8oz + 5gals of 93 for 100oct.
Obviously you need a little more for Torco. Did anyone reach out to Torco to see what is required for Turbo applications?

http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...r-ratio-93.pdf

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by M-Supra

http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...r-ratio-93.pdf

Are you on BM3 group?
Whats your mixing ratio?
The last log you posted looks great in my opinion, booster is meeting the timing.
Something I did learn was these folks only use octane booster for track days as it may leave orange residue in your plugs and exhaust tip in long use period of time. But adding a bottle of techron should clean it up.

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Are you on BM3 group?
Whats your mixing ratio?
The last log you posted looks great in my opinion, booster is meeting the timing.
Something I did learn was these folks only use octane booster for track days as it may leave orange residue in your plugs and exhaust tip in long use period of time. But adding a bottle of techron should clean it up.

Thanks for chiming in on log, need you smart guys to analyze!

Since so hot here, I mixed 1.5 cans (48oz) Torco with balance being 93 pump. I don't think I need this potent of a mixture but was being extra cautious.

1-32oz can mixed with 10 gallons 93 equates to 103 based on Torco ratio chart.


Not on BM3 group but would love to be, where do I find?

Thanks,

Cleve

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by M-Supra

Thanks for chiming in on log, need you smart guys to analyze!

Since so hot here, I mixed 1.5 cans (48oz) Torco with balance being 93 pump. I don't think I need this potent of a mixture but was being extra cautious.

1-32oz can mixed with 10 gallons 93 equates to 103 based on Torco ratio chart.


Not on BM3 group but would love to be, where do I find?

Thanks,

Cleve

32oz for 10 gals 103, so looks like a good math on your part 48oz for 15gals or so ?
Do you have a Dragy ? Performance Meter

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootmod3/

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by FSociety

32oz for 10 gals 103, so looks like a good math on your part 48oz for 15gals or so ?
Do you have a Dragy ? Performance Meter

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootmod3/

Here's Torco chart for reference, current performance meter is by gluteous maximus

http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...r-ratio-93.pdf

On stock tune with Wagner IC, Wagner 200 cell DP, and 3" cutout she made 368/411 on Technica Motorsports' dyno.

She made 381/445 with above mods and Turner Power Module on same Dyno.

BM3 Race Gas Tune feels much healthier/stronger than above.

Ill check FB, thanks FSociety!

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by M-Supra

Here's Torco chart for reference, current performance meter is by gluteous maximus

http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...r-ratio-93.pdf

On stock tune with Wagner IC, Wagner 200 cell DP, and 3" cutout she made 368/411 on Technica Motorsports' dyno.

She made 381/445 with above mods and Turner Power Module on same Dyno.

BM3 Race Gas Tune feels much healthier/stronger than above.

Ill check FB, thanks FSociety!

Time to hit that Dyno

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Time to hit that Dyno

TruDat

[M-Supra]

Launch control from shoulder on entrance ramp going slightly uphill, cooler now, approximately 84-85 degree evening.

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5b272ce7d10b4304d3cee608

[M-Supra]

Lots of MMT validation

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Yep that is good 'ol MMT

[SeanWRT]

400whp is a understatement. Your car would smoke anything on stock turbo without meth that's ever posted on F87 forum.

I had a feeling you're a bit faster than my Dinan turbo on 93AKI.

Congrats!

[M-Supra]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

400whp is a understatement. Your car would smoke anything on stock turbo without meth that's ever posted on F87 forum.

I had a feeling you're a bit faster than my Dinan turbo on 93AKI.

Congrats!

Thank you and Thanks to BM3, lets line'm up side by side to validate!

Is there any way to decipher acceleration times from logs?

It also appears that stock turbo is maxed out around 16-17psi on this tune at the top of 4th gear due to 100% wastegate duty cycle (cant push anymore exhaust through turbine), is this assumption correct? I'll be doing PS2 some point in the near future.

Cleve

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Originally Posted by M-Supra

Thank you and Thanks to BM3, lets line'm up side by side to validate!

Is there any way to decipher acceleration times from logs?

It also appears that stock turbo is maxed out around 16-17psi on this tune at the top of 4th gear due to 100% wastegate duty cycle (cant push anymore exhaust through turbine), is this assumption correct? I'll be doing PS2 some point in the near future.

Cleve

Get your self a Dragy