[Wilsm2]

I was filling up today and saw this story on a magazine

[MerlinPurple]

Intrigued!

Would they really call it the 1M though? Probably.

If I recall, the 1M designation came about due them not wanting to interfere with the original M1 car right?

Maybe keep that reserved no longer matters

[Fear-Mongrel]

I don't see BMW using the "M1" designation on this car. Not saying they'd never use that nomenclature again, but if they do, I'd be surprised if it's for a 4-door hatchback.

[N54]

Surely they are referring to the next AWD M140i?

[Wilsm2]

Originally Posted by N54

Surely they are referring to the next AWD M140i?

I can't say, I didn't have time to look inside the magazine, there was a full spread inside.

[Wilsm2]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/magazine this link has a bit more info

[N54]

Autocar drumming up interested to sell magazines

I’m happy to be corrected by one of our resident BMW insiders

[N54]

Article says :

This week's Autocar brings you big news of BMW's first true VW Golf R rival, which'll come in the form of an all-wheel drive M130ix next year. Can the marque's first non-rear driven hot hatch really take the fight to its more experienced rivals?

[dmboone25]

If they did make a 1M hot hatch (no, not the M140i), that was RWD and same power levels as the civic M2, I would definitely be interested.

But they won't, and if they did, the US probably wouldn't get one. Sigh...

[N54]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

If they did make a 1M hot hatch (no, not the M140i), that was RWD and same power levels as the civic M2, I would definitely be interested.

But they won't, and if they did, the US probably wouldn't get one. Sigh...

Do you get the current M140ii in the US?

That’s supposed to be as quick as the M2

[Weiman]

Originally Posted by N54

Surely they are referring to the next AWD M140i?

Surely, but it will probably be called M135i because of less pots and power than todays model.

I do hope (and think) they won't bring the upside-down kidneys from the X2...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by N54

Don’t you get the current M140ii in the US?

That’s supposed to be as quick as the M2

The only 1er we've ever gotten was the E82 (coupe) - we've never gotten any of the hatches.

My mom just got a GTI and loves hot hatches - it's a missed opportunity in my opinion.

Maybe we will get the M140i soon though - it's about to be refreshed I think?

[Weiman]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Maybe we will get the M140i soon though - it's about to be refreshed I think?

Well that's what this thread is all about
New 1 series hatch will arrive in 2019, based on the same FWD platform as Mini, X1 and X2.

[Motivate]

Why would BMW target the Golf R other than it's all European? The Golf R isn't really that great of a performer compared to all the good hot hatches out there nowadays.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by afwares

I don't see BMW using the "M1" designation on this car. Not saying they'd never use that nomenclature again, but if they do, I'd be surprised if it's for a 4-door hatchback.

They can use 1M easily because 1 is at the very bottom, not the top.

Now M10, that sounds like a badass. 1M, not so much.

[alscks0414]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

If they did make a 1M hot hatch (no, not the M140i), that was RWD and same power levels as the civic M2, I would definitely be interested.

But they won't, and if they did, the US probably wouldn't get one. Sigh...

Why this NA german dealers hate to carry hatches.... (except VW as golf is their signature vehicle).

I LOVE hatch-backs, given the fact that it give better practicality but still not losing driving dynamics unless you are going over 150 mph.

If they will give true M (not M140i Xdrive) with RWD/ manual. They are guaranteed to take my money haha

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by alscks0414

Why this NA german dealers hate to carry hatches.... (except VW as golf is their signature vehicle).

I LOVE hatch-backs, given the fact that it give better practicality but still not losing driving dynamics unless you are going over 150 mph.

If they will give true M (not M140i Xdrive) with RWD/ manual. They are guaranteed to take my money haha

You and me both.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

The only 1er we've ever gotten was the E82 (coupe) - we've never gotten any of the hatches.

My mom just got a GTI and loves hot hatches - it's a missed opportunity in my opinion.

Maybe we will get the M140i soon though - it's about to be refreshed I think?

Wife just got GTI too. Loves it. Fun kid hauler that looks good and is fast. If price is right, I agree missed opportunity. I just can't see how they can compete with gti. We got $6k off MSRP and it's quite a bargain.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by nachob

Wife just got GTI too. Loves it. Fun kid hauler that looks good and is fast. If price is right, I agree missed opportunity. I just can't see how they can compete with gti. We got $6k off MSRP and it's quite a bargain.

Agreed - the GTI comes with a lot of kit standard too. It's an awesome package.

[bobert]

While I consider a fwd/transverse-engine car (w/awd or not) with a BMW badge to be rolling blasphemy, a 4-door hot hatch from BMW with such good looks and a decently sporty driving experience would be nice... I could certainly see myself buying said rolling blasphemy to replace my GTI in another 3 years or so (provided I'm less enamored with the next-gen GTI). It'd also make a good excuse for another ED trip.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by bobert

While I consider a fwd/transverse-engine car (w/awd or not) with a BMW badge to be rolling blasphemy, a 4-door hot hatch from BMW with such good looks and a decently sporty driving experience would be nice... I could certainly see myself buying said rolling blasphemy to replace my GTI in another 3 years or so (provided I'm less enamored with the next-gen GTI). It'd also make a good excuse for another ED trip.

Ditto! If AWD it would be a great daily driver for me...replace my i3!