[JustChris]

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OK here we go.....keep it clean. Not even watched it yet myself....

[atxsk8r]

30 MPG in the M2??? Yeah right, i would say ZERO M2 owners will average this

[Benzima]

1M was good... the M2 is a better 1M

[gthal]

Nice review and about as expected.

I always find it interesting when reviewers praise the raw experience that requires a lot of skill and work to manage the car ('m distinguishing a "raw" experience that relates to sound, vibration, analog feel, etc with a "raw" experience that can be more behaviour based for a car like being snappy, etc ). No doubt a raw car is fun and engaging in the right hands (and this guy seemed to be relatively skilled) but they are reviewing a car that is built for a world where 98% of buyers can't manage the car at the absolute limit. Also, for almost everyone who buys these cars (including those who track it), they are NOT playing hooligan and sliding all around a track. They are pushing a car to their personal limit, trying to be smooth and fast, and having a blast doing it. The issue is that for those 98% of folks, when they get to the edge and the car bites them they don't have the skill to deal with it and something bad happens... therefore, a car that softens those edges and communicates its limits is the better car for almost everyone.

Notwithstanding that many people THINK they have this skill but, in a reality that isn't fuelled by excessive testosterone, they really don't. Some people who love the harder to manage, more raw, more snap happy experience, love it right up until they are in the bushes when the car outruns their ability with little in the way of forgiveness.

P.S. Not suggesting the 1M is too raw and snappy compared to the M2 (I bet it is not that different in reality), it's just funny how the reviewer sells this as a feature he likes but isn't accounting for the reality of 98% of his viewers.

[mad chemist]

Shame the guy doesn't know that the 1M N54 lump has 2 identical turbos

[TXSurfer]

Dang the M2 is a sexy beast! The wait for production to start is killing me!!!!

[ORIGIN M.]

The 1m Coupe will always be more raw.

The Original Pirate !

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Benzima

1M was good... the M2 is a better 1M

It's a better 1M for an idiot driver, as the reviewer says LOL ... And of course he chose the 1M..

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by gthal

Nice review and about as expected.

I always find it interesting when reviewers praise the raw experience that requires a lot of skill and work to manage the car ('m distinguishing a "raw" experience that relates to sound, vibration, analog feel, etc with a "raw" experience that can be more behaviour based for a car like being snappy, etc ). No doubt a raw car is fun and engaging in the right hands (and this guy seemed to be relatively skilled) but they are reviewing a car that is built for a world where 98% of buyers can't manage the car at the absolute limit. Also, for almost everyone who buys these cars (including those who track it), they are NOT playing hooligan and sliding all around a track. They are pushing a car to their personal limit, trying to be smooth and fast, and having a blast doing it. The issue is that for those 98% of folks, when they get to the edge and the car bites them they don't have the skill to deal with it and something bad happens... therefore, a car that softens those edges and communicates its limits is the better car for almost everyone.

Notwithstanding that many people THINK they have this skill but, in a reality that isn't fuelled by excessive testosterone, they really don't. Some people who love the harder to manage, more raw, more snap happy experience, love it right up until they are in the bushes when the car outruns their ability with little in the way of forgiveness.

P.S. Not suggesting the 1M is too raw and snappy compared to the M2 (I bet it is not that different in reality), it's just funny how the reviewer sells this as a feature he likes but isn't accounting for the reality of 98% of his viewers.

wait.. What ? So 98 percent of the people that are gonna watch this aren't serious driving enthusiasts ??

I guess I know where you fall because I'm in the 2 percent!! Plus.. You know I got skillz...

Seriously though. I wrote in my review of the M2 that it is NOT very different from the 1M.

It's an absolutely more refined version of the same car. But just because Apple comes out with a new IOS that looks different, doesn't mean that everyone prefers it !


The M2 is easier to drive. Both cars are very fun. The 1M is NOT for the novice driver. The M2 is indeed a car that anyone can jump in and go quickly in with very little skill.

The 1M is for ...

Those of us that have good driving skills!
Those of that and Aren't looking for short cuts to go faster.
Those of us that prefer a more tactile feeling from the vehicle.

The clutch pedal effort ,and steering on the 1M simply *are * superior to the M2. The M2 absolutely is faster, softer, and easier to drive at the limit but it's also less involving because it's less raw.


Any 1M owner could trade in their car on an M2 and probably walk away with some pocket change.. And if one wants a new warranty , an auto transmission, or prefers the looks of the new car then they switch to new.

I'm happy that BMW has made both, because, just a short while ago, everyone on the forum was proclaiming how much BMW " lost its way" .. Which never happened .. The 1M just wasn't as accessible to all.

Now the M2 is here and proving it.

For me the 1M is absolutely the better car.
Whether it's driving or scholastics or sports ,
I've never been one to hit the easy button.

There are many people that own(ed) Both the 1M and the M2 and the ones I have met have preferred the 1M, except those that were terrified of the chassis. Reviewers tend to do the same.

[mPlasticDesign]

I miss my 1M

[Dackelone]

Nice video!

[Fahrvergnügen]

A year or so from now you will be able to get a used M2 with ~8-10k miles in the mid-$40s. That would be a great value. If and when a comp pack comes out to distance itself from the upcoming 240i then a normal used M2 will begin dipping into the $30s (just look at the M4).

I hate playing the 'appreciation' card but the fact is that all the while, the 1M can be driven while appreciating / holding its value. You may have to work more for the fun but it doesn't get much sweeter than that.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by gthal

Nice review and about as expected.

I always find it interesting when reviewers praise the raw experience that requires a lot of skill and work to manage the car ('m distinguishing a "raw" experience that relates to sound, vibration, analog feel, etc with a "raw" experience that can be more behaviour based for a car like being snappy, etc ). No doubt a raw car is fun and engaging in the right hands (and this guy seemed to be relatively skilled) but they are reviewing a car that is built for a world where 98% of buyers can't manage the car at the absolute limit. Also, for almost everyone who buys these cars (including those who track it), they are NOT playing hooligan and sliding all around a track. They are pushing a car to their personal limit, trying to be smooth and fast, and having a blast doing it. The issue is that for those 98% of folks, when they get to the edge and the car bites them they don't have the skill to deal with it and something bad happens... therefore, a car that softens those edges and communicates its limits is the better car for almost everyone.

Notwithstanding that many people THINK they have this skill but, in a reality that isn't fuelled by excessive testosterone, they really don't. Some people who love the harder to manage, more raw, more snap happy experience, love it right up until they are in the bushes when the car outruns their ability with little in the way of forgiveness.

P.S. Not suggesting the 1M is too raw and snappy compared to the M2 (I bet it is not that different in reality), it's just funny how the reviewer sells this as a feature he likes but isn't accounting for the reality of 98% of his viewers.

+1. The hard top versions of the MZ4 & MZ3 are other examples.

[ORIGIN M.]

M2 is different...

[stefan]

Analog? Raw? Sounds like someone forgot about the E46 M3. I don't think any of the words he used to describe "proper M" apply to these lazy turbo cars.

That all said I see zero reason to buy an overpriced 1M over a more competent M2. Don't forget the 1M interior is abysmal as well. And since 99% of us just daily these cars I think that's a bit important.

[DS_BMW]

Great review!

[Advevo]

I have both.

This review is very good indeed.

The 1m is far more a challenge to drive hard then the m2. The m2 feels like a smaller m4.

In the 1m you need bigger nuts and is therefore more rewarding to drive!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by stefan

Analog? Raw? Sounds like someone forgot about the E46 M3. I don't think any of the words he used to describe "proper M" apply to these lazy turbo cars.

That all said I see zero reason to buy an overpriced 1M over a more competent M2. Don't forget the 1M interior is abysmal as well. And since 99% of us just daily these cars I think that's a bit important.

If it was not for the 1M there would be no M2.

Not talking about any other car here.

Troll on /

[MSCD]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

30 MPG in the M2??? Yeah right, i would say ZERO M2 owners will average this

I believe he is referring to UK gallons 4.4litres versus the U S of 3.3 liters.

Nice review the 1M is a great car. I like the MG M2 looks good. If I had the choice would get the 1M but they're getting harder to come by - at a price I would pay.

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by MSCD

I believe he is referring to UK gallons 4.4litres versus the U S of 3.3 liters.

Ah, yep you are right. I should of realized that anyways since they were driving from the wrong front seat lol

[Uapilot7]

1M looks like a door stop. I would take the similar more refined and GOOD looking M2 over the 1M any day of the week...... But I like my 2016 F80 more betta. 😊

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by Advevo

In the 1m you need bigger nuts and is therefore more rewarding to drive!