[PackPride85]

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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/feature...-january-2016/

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Highlights:

• Uncapped production numbers
• Subframe suspension components taken from M4
• Tires are 10mm narrower than the M4 because stock M4 size wouldn't fit.
• No adaptive dampening as they designed the shock dampening specifically for the spring rate
• Brakes are pulled off the M4.
• No carbon-ceramic due to cost. Can ask dealer for track pads though.
• DCT and 6 speed pulled straight from M4
• Sound deadening material ripped out to reduce the weight
• Less restrictive air intake, M4 pistons, liners, big-end bearings, oil pump and sump
• Same intercooler as m235i, but larger radiator with better airflow thru bumper
• Increased throttle response vs m235i
• No drivelogic controller (hence the missing M buttons)
• comfort, sport, sport+ selections for steering, throttle, dct settings. Fixed not adjustable
• The M2 should be more stable at the limit than the 1M. This was due to them not having enough time to calibrate based on using a turbo motor.
• One of the guys they interviewed said he prefers the M2 over the M4 bc its smaller and could potentially be faster through a slalom.

[metrickid]

The last one sucks, I don't want to be forced to drive without DSC to get the fastest gear shifts.

[swagon]

You've reached your article limit

and yet I had not read anything.

Agreed about the Fahrerlebnisschalter. There should be just an option in iDrive to change the DCT shift times. It can't be difficult to program it into the system.

[Spook410]

Ripped out sound deadening material to reduce weight? Haven't seen a lot in the way of weight reduction and now I'm wondering how noisy this thing will be.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by swagon

You've reached your article limit

and yet I had not read anything.

Agreed about the Fahrerlebnisschalter. There should be just an option in iDrive to change the DCT shift times. It can't be difficult to program it into the system.

You need to create a (free) account to read the article.

Maybe we can code the speeds, sucks otherwise.

[IEDEI]

so does the M2 have the M3 chassis components and subframes like the 1M had from the E9X M3?

no mention of that at all....

I'm curious why the M3/4 tires wouldn't fit if they had the same hub and underpinnings. The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

[chak87]

I'm a little confused that the article says it sounds like a 325i...

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

so does the M2 have the M3 chassis components and subframes like the 1M had from the E9X M3?

no mention of that at all....

I'm curious why the M3/4 tires wouldn't fit if they had the same hub and underpinnings. The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

It does from the M4. Forgot to add that to my summary.

[Benzima]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

so does the M2 have the M3 chassis components and subframes like the 1M had from the E9X M3?

no mention of that at all....

I'm curious why the M3/4 tires wouldn't fit if they had the same hub and underpinnings. The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

From the M2 press release:

In addition, a racing derived rigid connection, without rubber bushings, is used to fix the lightweight steel gridtype rear axle subframe to the body.

Not sure if it means same M3/4 subframe.

[Cope]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Ripped out sound deadening material to reduce weight? Haven't seen a lot in the way of weight reduction and now I'm wondering how noisy this thing will be.

Hopefully the resonator on the car is fake and it loves to drone at highway speeds.

[PackPride85]

A couple of more notes:
-The M2 should be more stable at the limit than the 1M. This was due to them not having enough time to calibrate based on using a turbo motor.
-One of the guys they interviewed said he prefers the M2 over the M4 bc its smaller and could potentially be faster through a slalom.

This car is very much an M4 under the skin from what they said. Just not getting the twin turbo, fancy gadgets, or weight reduction.

I interpreted the lack of CF parts as being not worth the cost for low volume production car when they could save decent weight by removing sound material.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

so does the M2 have the M3 chassis components and subframes like the 1M had from the E9X M3?

no mention of that at all....

I'm curious why the M3/4 tires wouldn't fit if they had the same hub and underpinnings. The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

You're always itching to find 1M advantages Lol

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

You're always itching to find 1M advantages Lol

Not really. To me this car is the "1M, part 2" so the comparison is really a crucial part of the evaluation of the M2. It's funny to me how people are trying to separate the M2 from the 1M but in reality this is an attempt to recreate the 1M.

I think the M2 is just about the only car in the BMW lineup worth considering so i appreciate it; but i'm wondering HOW the M2 is selling for cheaper than the 1M in the australian market and what costcutting BMW have done to keep the price down here.

I don't need to find 1M advantages....there are already many :P

[fuddman]

Thanks for the info!

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Ripped out sound deadening material to reduce weight? Haven't seen a lot in the way of weight reduction and now I'm wondering how noisy this thing will be.

Exactly my thoughts as well.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

Not really. To me this car is the "1M, part 2" so the comparison is really a crucial part of the evaluation of the M2. It's funny to me how people are trying to separate the M2 from the 1M but in reality this is an attempt to recreate the 1M.

I think the M2 is just about the only car in the BMW lineup worth considering so i appreciate it; but i'm wondering HOW the M2 is selling for cheaper than the 1M in the australian market and what costcutting BMW have done to keep the price down here.

I don't need to find 1M advantages....there are already many :P

The M2 is not 1M Part 2. M2 differences: chassis, suspension, engine and drivetrain, steering, brakes and completely different styling.

The M2 compares better to M4 and M235 as it appears it is a derivative of F8x M3/4 and M235 based on the parts and s/w used.

I would say the 1M was a derivative of E9x 335/M3.

[Die ///M Rakete]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

With known front tire rub until the liner update came out months after its release. Maybe BMW is avoiding a similar situation?

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Die ///M Rakete

With known front tire rub until the liner update came out months after its release. Maybe BMW is avoiding a similar situation?

Ah very true....however that tire rub only happened with the winter setup on the 1M. I had to have my liner replaced (free of charge) so my winter wheels would stop rubbing. I never felt any rubbing with the 'stock' tire/wheel setup though......right?

[slowF32]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

The last one sucks, I don't want to be forced to drive without DSC to get the fastest gear shifts.

If they follow the same ideology as the M235i, the shift response should be the same for Sport and Sport+ so I don't see a scenario where you would give up Stability control for faster shifts

[Makman]

I dont understand this following part, can some1 pls explain?

"The M2 should be more stable at the limit than the 1M. This was due to them not having enough time to calibrate based on using a turbo motor."

thanks!

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by Makman

I dont understand this following part, can some1 pls explain?

"The M2 should be more stable at the limit than the 1M. This was due to them not having enough time to calibrate based on using a turbo motor."

thanks!

From the article: "The 1M rode like it had ants in its pants, and you caught its oversteer more with punches than steering inputs. I ask if that feistiness was intentional, or a by-product of the M melting pot. ‘By-product,’ confirms Isenberg. ‘We were still learning with the turbocharged engine. For the M2, the ride is much more compliant, and it’s not so tricky at the limit."

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

so does the M2 have the M3 chassis components and subframes like the 1M had from the E9X M3?
no mention of that at all....
I'm curious why the M3/4 tires wouldn't fit if they had the same hub and underpinnings. The 1M used the exact same spec as its M3 counterparts.

FWIW: regarding the M2 underpinnings the M2 Press Kit (that you can find here) mentions that the M2 features several components of the M3/M4 including "lightweight aluminium front and rear axles".