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      12-28-2016, 03:05 PM   #23
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I wonder why the Rev matching is so EZ??? lol
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Whew, he said best "Current" M Car. So my E90 M3 is still the best M car ever, right?
Depends on what "best" means.
I'd take a 1978 - 1981 M1 over pretty much any other M car.
(In good-to-excellent condition, of course.)
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I drove rental 228i convertible through California canyons and must say while it is not an M, 2 series short wheelbase is a huge advantage over M3 I drive daily. I really liked the 2: great size, great tranny. However the engine although powerful is a joke and so is the steering and don't forget the looks that are screaming I am a budget bimmer. Heavyness of the convertible was a plus in canyons in my humble opinion.
Anyway, if you don't care about looks and only drive 1 passenger, get the 2er, M or not. Or boxer/cayman which is more money....
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Sorry, but to compare a M2 to a M3 is silly. Both are extremely capable cars, both brilliant. M3 just easier to live with and quality interior and proper ///M engine. If I am spending that much on a car I want a proper M car and non-plastic leather and not a glovebox made out of cardboard. Seriously BMW should have just made the interior a bit more special as blue stitching doesn't make a good interior. I'd love both in my garage, but perhaps my 40yr old demographic require a bit more...
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Sorry, but to compare a M2 to a M3 is silly. Both are extremely capable cars, both brilliant. M3 just easier to live with and quality interior and proper ///M engine. If I am spending that much on a car I want a proper M car and non-plastic leather and not a glovebox made out of cardboard. Seriously BMW should have just made the interior a bit more special as blue stitching doesn't make a good interior. I'd love both in my garage, but perhaps my 40yr old demographic require a bit more...
Proper until the crank hub spins
N55 spins rod bearings and is known for that on a stock motor so pick your poison. Keep the M3 stock and you won't have a SCH.
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Looks and sounds great, love the charcoal gray with blacked-out kidney grills.

I have to say the interior can use an upgrade to have it more like the M3 and M4 especially the front seats, to me that's where it's lacking. Otherwise it's cool. I've sat in one it's nice, it's just not the M4 regards to attention to detail. But I have not driven it and I'm sure it does the job superbly.
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So true.

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I wonder if the M2 is one of those going back to the good times moments for BMW or just a one off moment of brilliance.

I really hope it is the former and they continue to connect with the driving ethos that made them the icon that they are today.
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I wonder if the M2 is one of those going back to the good times moments for BMW or just a one off moment of brilliance.

I really hope it is the former and they continue to connect with the driving ethos that made them the icon that they are today.
I think it's a phenomenal package overall and you can't find a current better driving M car and I don't think it's a one off at all, just look at the 1M.

But a moment of brilliance would have been a 390-400hp B58 motor or an already detuned s55. Why save it for the 100k M2cs unobtanium and with such a low limited production numbers BMW get thy head out of Arse!

Case in point I'd still buy an M2 over any current coupe on the market. Just me.
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Sorry, but to compare a M2 to a M3 is silly. Both are extremely capable cars, both brilliant. M3 just easier to live with and quality interior and proper ///M engine. If I am spending that much on a car I want a proper M car and non-plastic leather and not a glovebox made out of cardboard. Seriously BMW should have just made the interior a bit more special as blue stitching doesn't make a good interior. I'd love both in my garage, but perhaps my 40yr old demographic require a bit more...
I get your perspective for sure, and more interior options would have been nice. But...that's why BMW makes multiple models. Your same argument could be used in an M3 vs M6 debate (nicer interior, more specialized engine, etc).

I like the M2 for what it is - no frills, small, and fun. That's enough for some folks.
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Proper until the crank hub spins
Sure. Closed deck, M2 open deck average N55..yawn!
S65?, probably the most boring ///M engine of all time
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Whew, he said best "Current" M Car. So my E90 M3 is still the best M car ever, right?
I like your humor a tiny little bit more than Doug's.
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Sorry, but to compare a M2 to a M3 is silly. Both are extremely capable cars, both brilliant. M3 just easier to live with and quality interior and proper ///M engine. If I am spending that much on a car I want a proper M car and non-plastic leather and not a glovebox made out of cardboard. Seriously BMW should have just made the interior a bit more special as blue stitching doesn't make a good interior. I'd love both in my garage, but perhaps my 40yr old demographic require a bit more...
I get your perspective for sure, and more interior options would have been nice. But...that's why BMW makes multiple models. Your same argument could be used in an M3 vs M6 debate (nicer interior, more specialized engine, etc).

I like the M2 for what it is - no frills, small, and fun. That's enough for some folks.
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M2...glovebox made out of cardboard.
My new favorite descriptor of an M2 car part. Did you know, the sun visors double as kitchen sponges?
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Sure. Closed deck, M2 open deck average N55..yawn!
S65?, probably the most boring ///M engine of all time
Some interesting information from BMW's technical training document for the F87 M2, the engine is significantly upgraded from a standard N55.

"The all-new BMW M2's newly developed 3.0 liter 6-cylinder engine represents a symbiosis of exceptional output and outstanding efficiency. The lightweight, thermodynamically optimized, all-aluminum unit is extremely rigid due to its closed-deck design – which means that the cylinder water jacket is closed at the top. This enables higher cylinder pressures for improved power output and torque."

"The crankshaft main bearing shells were adopted from the S55 engine. The crankshaft bearings are lead-free. A three-material S703C elactroplated bearing is used as a material combination for the lower bearing shells. For the upper bearing shells a two-material bearing made from aluminum R25 is used. The axial bearing is effected at the fourth bearing position."

"The pistons were adopted from the S55 engine. Adaptations were necessary on the first piston, the plain rectangular compression ring had to be adapted as regards the material pairing to a liner made of grey cast iron. This is in contrast to the S55 engine where this is LDS-coated."

"The oil supply was adapted for race circuit suitability:
-Additional oil sump cover to restrict oil movements at high acceleration.
-Additional suction pump to return the oil to the rear area of the oil sump during high lateral and longitudinal acceleration.;
-Extraction from the exhaust turbocharger in the event of high lateral acceleration.
With these changes, the oil supply can be guaranteed up to a longitudinal acceleration of 0.61g and 1.2g in the case of deceleration. Also with lateral acceleration, this structure enables a secure oil supply up to a constant 1.2g."

"The oil sump is a common part from the S55 engine and is made of aluminum."

"In order to adapt the oil supply to motor racing requirements, a second oil pump was installed as a backup."
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The passenger lets him know at the 5:18 mark so I'm thinking he didn't know and was attempting the rev matches, thinking he was executing them perfectly
Yea I chuckled at that part.. he looked so pleased when talking about his perfect revmatches..
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I purposefully skip all his posts and "reviews" on jalopnik. It's just for entertainment only if you like his kind of entertainment
+1 I find him sort of annoying to be honest. Doesn't seem to know what he's talking about most of the time. But different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Sorry, but to compare a M2 to a M3 is silly. Both are extremely capable cars, both brilliant. M3 just easier to live with and quality interior and proper ///M engine. If I am spending that much on a car I want a proper M car and non-plastic leather and not a glovebox made out of cardboard. Seriously BMW should have just made the interior a bit more special as blue stitching doesn't make a good interior. I'd love both in my garage, but perhaps my 40yr old demographic require a bit more...
I see this sort of comment quite a bit on these boards. l suppose what ultimately makes an M car "proper" is a matter of individual perspective. To me, it is not leather, gloveboxes, mirrors, and the like. It is driving dynamics. I have driven these cars, and the dynamics I prefer are those of the M2, which are easily distinguishable from those of the F80/82. So that's what's soon (as in 10 days) going to be in my garage.
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