Let's talk M2 ECU options

MGWally · 12-07-2017, 06:32 PM

Just got in my Dinan Big Turbo and Wagner IC. Still deciding on whether I go with a catless or catted DPs. Big question is ECU.

Bootmod3 - sounds like the best option, but I hear it's irreversible and completely voids the car warranty.
JB4 - I'm really scared of the reliability here. I've had mostly good past experiences with my 335i, M3 and a really bad experience with my 328i. Ended up ruining my 328i ECU. So I'm really reluctant now.
Dinantronics Stage 4 - expensive and doesn't really give me much power. Build quality seems superb though.
Any other suggestion?

Beyond Help · 12-07-2017, 07:29 PM

A good friend just informed me about a new way to tune Fxx cars today after getting a email from this company, I’m going to do more research tomorrow.

A solution that doesn’t require unlocking ECU to read write through OBD. I might be a guinea pig if he decides to buy the software.

https://www.autotuner-tool.com/en/bmwobd

Dav3 · 12-07-2017, 08:10 PM

VF engineering looked promising on paper when I looked into it

Any flash tune will void your warranty though

MGWally · 12-07-2017, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beyond Help

A good friend just informed me about a new way to tune Fxx cars today after getting a email from this company, I’m going to do more research tomorrow.

A solution that doesn’t require unlocking ECU to read write through OBD. I might be a guinea pig if he decides to buy the software.

https://www.autotuner-tool.com/en/bmwobd

very interesting. Is this already available?

MGWally · 12-07-2017, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lopm2

VF engineering looked promising on paper when I looked into it

Any flash tune will void your warranty though

I guess VF's solution is comparable to Bootmod3?

Beyond Help · 12-07-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MGWally

very interesting. Is this already available?

He got the email today so it might have just been released. But dishing out 6kUSD for the software is a big chunk of change. But if you don’t need to rip out the ECU to flash it I’m willing to be a guinea pig I was going to go with Bootmod3

MGWally · 12-07-2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beyond Help

He got the email today so it might have just been released. But dishing out 6kUSD for the software is a big chunk of change. But if you don’t need to rip out the ECU to flash it I’m willing to be a guinea pig I was going to go with Bootmod3

$6k is crazy talk..

Beyond Help · 12-07-2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MGWally

$6k is crazy talk..

Yes but he owns a performance shop so being able to flash tune these cars through OBD could be good revenue for the company.

SeanWRT · 12-07-2017, 09:23 PM

OP you don't really have that many flash tuning options. Removing ECU or not, you need a custom tune for bigger turbo. That alone narrows your choices down to either a local bench tuner or BM3 remote tuning via datalog.

I have been datalogging my car for quite a while with DzenanproTUNING Freaks and Halim Halim@HCP. Things I have realized, they keep improving their files from data feedback from its user base, a thing that few others in the industry can match. Where they're right now, I think it's a difficult job for you to find better tuners for F platform in the business.

Shayan55 · 12-07-2017, 11:58 PM

BM3 FTW hahaahah

NO_USER_ · 12-08-2017, 12:11 AM

+1 custom tune via bootmod3

marcusfva · 12-08-2017, 01:24 AM

Manic Motorsport (the most famous Mini ECU tuner in EU) is close to officially release a Stage 1 map for the M2. Got a buddy that is running the beta version on his M2 and it works great. Anyway unlocking ecu is needed.

nomade30 · 12-10-2017, 03:24 PM

Auto tuner is a professional solution, you'll still need a A2L and FR, as well as WinOLS. Definitely not an option for someone that wants to do their own tuning unless you want to learn how the professionals do it, reading through 15,000 pages that are in german is fun...

BM3 is probably the best option, and port flashing should be coming soon from what I've heard.

FSociety · 12-10-2017, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT

OP you don't really have that many flash tuning options. Removing ECU or not, you need a custom tune for bigger turbo. That alone narrows your choices down to either a local bench tuner or BM3 remote tuning via datalog.

I have been datalogging my car for quite a while with DzenanproTUNING Freaks and Halim Halim@HCP. Things I have realized, they keep improving their files from data feedback from its user base, a thing that few others in the industry can match. Where they're right now, I think it's a difficult job for you to find better tuners for F platform in the business.

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Originally Posted by f22_shayan

BM3 FTW hahaahah

Quote:

Originally Posted by inline6ax

+1 custom tune via bootmod3

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomade30

Auto tuner is a professional solution, you'll still need a A2L and FR, as well as WinOLS. Definitely not an option for someone that wants to do their own tuning unless you want to learn how the professionals do it, reading through 15,000 pages that are in german is fun...

BM3 is probably the best option, and port flashing should be coming soon from what I've heard.

Bootmod3 "Unleash the B3ast!"

Bt12 · 12-10-2017, 07:50 PM

BPM prices out...
http://www.bpmsport.com/services/tun...7-m2-tune.html

MGWally · 12-10-2017, 07:51 PM

Just heard back from Mike Radowski over at Bimmer Clinic and he officially has an OBD Port Flashing solution for the M2. More details coming soon.

FSociety · 12-10-2017, 08:25 PM

PTF just announced http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1447623

Ramon. · 12-10-2017, 11:48 PM

RK Tunes just released a plug and play tuner that is reversible minus flash counter. It will only show a +1 on the counter but no signs of any data changes.

MTWO · 12-11-2017, 04:47 AM

BM3 FTW

horsepower_and_hounds · 12-14-2017, 11:13 AM

They are all coming out of the cracks......

RPM2-85 · 12-15-2017, 07:32 AM

Get a HEX tune. Nothing more to say.

STK · 12-16-2017, 02:04 PM

It would be pretty helpful to have a spreadsheet or a table comparing the tunes. The Stage 1 advertised hp and torque differences between the hex and bmp3, for example, are huge. Also, some of the companies offer different tunes for 91 vs 93 octane as well as other features. Seems like there have been at least five self-installed tunes to hit the market in the last several weeks.

So a comparison table would be a great addition to this discussion. I don't want to start flame wars, but seeing the stats and features side by side would lend clarity and focus the discussion. And I'm sure folks with experience with these tuners could add insight on tradeoffs between, say, additional hp vs smoothness. I wouldn't know how to embed a table into one of these posts. It might even be worth a new tread. I know I'd be watching.

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MGWally Private First Class 125 Rep 179 Posts Drives: 2015 Austin Yellow M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kenilworth, NJ iTrader: (1)	Let's talk M2 ECU options Just got in my Dinan Big Turbo and Wagner IC. Still deciding on whether I go with a catless or catted DPs. Big question is ECU. Bootmod3 - sounds like the best option, but I hear it's irreversible and completely voids the car warranty. JB4 - I'm really scared of the reliability here. I've had mostly good past experiences with my 335i, M3 and a really bad experience with my 328i. Ended up ruining my 328i ECU. So I'm really reluctant now. Dinantronics Stage 4 - expensive and doesn't really give me much power. Build quality seems superb though. Any other suggestion?
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Dav3 Major 949 Rep 1,027 Posts Drives: G87 M2/E89 35is/F21 M140i/GT4 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	VF engineering looked promising on paper when I looked into it Any flash tune will void your warranty though
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SeanWRT Colonel 3179 Rep 2,577 Posts Drives: E90 M3 & F87 M2 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Shanghai iTrader: (1)	OP you don't really have that many flash tuning options. Removing ECU or not, you need a custom tune for bigger turbo. That alone narrows your choices down to either a local bench tuner or BM3 remote tuning via datalog. I have been datalogging my car for quite a while with DzenanproTUNING Freaks and Halim Halim@HCP. Things I have realized, they keep improving their files from data feedback from its user base, a thing that few others in the industry can match. Where they're right now, I think it's a difficult job for you to find better tuners for F platform in the business. __________________ Lemania 2320
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nomade30 Private First Class 124 Rep 168 Posts Drives: 18 M2, 91 325, 05 DMAX Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: UT iTrader: (0)	Auto tuner is a professional solution, you'll still need a A2L and FR, as well as WinOLS. Definitely not an option for someone that wants to do their own tuning unless you want to learn how the professionals do it, reading through 15,000 pages that are in german is fun... BM3 is probably the best option, and port flashing should be coming soon from what I've heard.
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STK Private First Class 216 Rep 190 Posts Drives: '18 M2 6MT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	It would be pretty helpful to have a spreadsheet or a table comparing the tunes. The Stage 1 advertised hp and torque differences between the hex and bmp3, for example, are huge. Also, some of the companies offer different tunes for 91 vs 93 octane as well as other features. Seems like there have been at least five self-installed tunes to hit the market in the last several weeks. So a comparison table would be a great addition to this discussion. I don't want to start flame wars, but seeing the stats and features side by side would lend clarity and focus the discussion. And I'm sure folks with experience with these tuners could add insight on tradeoffs between, say, additional hp vs smoothness. I wouldn't know how to embed a table into one of these posts. It might even be worth a new tread. I know I'd be watching.
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