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Hrmm...the guy wasn't a good driver but still it shouldn't have been this close at all. His car looked stock and mine is mostly stock with just track pads and NT01 tires and camber plates.
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This is brilliant move by Porsche and brilliant on point communication: "The new 911 Carrera T is a thoroughbred 911. Made for drivers, not collectors. Made for the next corner, not the garage. Made for the journey, not the destination." Here is my current build: http://www.porsche-code.com/PJLHYVQ8 It's first 911 where you can just tick few options and you're done. I even have a feeling that the less options you take the better for the whole experience. Financially it's going to be a big stretch but on the other hand it won't loose as much in depreciation as an M2, so in the long run it my just be similar in terms of cost. I'm going to local PC on Thursday to talk with the SA. Nothing made me this much excited yet Hope it somehow all works out and in June I'm gonna be driving the most driver focused 991 911 Carrera out there |
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10-29-2017, 11:44 PM | #114 | |
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I agree they are different cars but an M2 should not keep up with a GT4. If I brought my GT3 I would have run him right over. |
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Not sure what you mean by m2 lacking that 'specialness'. It's special ever time I drive this car. It's an attention getter, fast, quick, fun to drive, looks brilliant, comfortable, etc.. What else am I missing? I have access to my customer's cars from all the M's, AMGs, Porsches, and McLarens to add to my experience in cars. and my customers all agree how special an M2 is.
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11-01-2017, 04:23 PM | #117 | |
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In comparison with a normal car in the same price range; the M2 is way more special and every drive is much more of an occasion. I drive my M2 everyday (I have driven sporty cars all my live) and the M2 is a joy to drive on the streets and absolutely different, more fun then most cars. Yes the M2 CSL/CS will be more intoxicating, more involving....but also more expensive (which also loses a bit the attraction of the M2...the great fun package for that price).
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As for now I'm looking into every option, especially cars with lower depreciation values (as this is the real cost of the car) and here in Poland BMW's aren't good in this regard, even M2s. Porsche despite the high entry cost do it brilliantly, maybe apart from 911 Turbo S. Don't congratulate me as I didn't order it yet. Main reason being that the SA I talked with today has offered me a spot for the 2018 991.2 GT3 I told him it would be a huge stretch financially but he told me there is a way to do it and I agreed to send him my spec and get quotes for both CT and GT3. Well it turns out that I can prolong the lease financing the residual value for another three years. The question is if I'll manage to handle being for so long with the same car. I think that the new 4.0L GT3 is worth it... Have to think about it... Eh I hate having this kind of dilemma and the SAs who know our weak spots What I also love about Porsche is the warranty you can prolong from standard 2 up to 10 years, which gives you peace of mind in scenarios like that above. Last edited by Benef1cient; 11-02-2017 at 06:42 PM.. |
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BMW does this also...you can prolong the warranty (in my country) of your new BMW... I would love to know if Porsche would to this om a used GT4? Considering the 3the gear gearbox issue.
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11-07-2017, 07:42 PM | #123 |
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Porsche is so planted while M2 is jumping around all over the track. Bumpy and bouncy in M2 which is not the case in the GT4. Even the regular Cayman S is not bouncy
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11-10-2017, 07:56 PM | #124 | |
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11-12-2017, 09:53 AM | #125 | |
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AND to say that you "JUST" had track pads, NT-01 tires and camber plates, is not really fair. Those tire alone will make 3-4 seconds a lap difference, putting you in theory on a level playing field with the GT4. Of course a lot of it is subjective, but I am not surprised you were able to keep up with the GT4. |
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11-12-2017, 01:16 PM | #126 | |
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So its not fair to say that driver was not good. After driving slightly modded m2 on the track I think that its a very capable car and now seriously thinking to upgrade my 135i to M2.
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11-13-2017, 07:18 AM | #127 |
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That's cause he's not pushing the car at all hence why I was running him over in the corners. I'm also on pretty old/dead tires.
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11-13-2017, 07:21 AM | #128 | |
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GT3/GT4 should corner a lot faster than the M2 even on NT01 with camber plates and as you saw walks away in all the straights. That track has 2-3 pretty long straights. At COTA my 997.1 GT3 and most stockish GT4's (well driven) are 2:27ish, my M2 on NT01, pads, camber plates was 2:34. That's 7 seconds a lap. It takes way more than wheels/tires/camber plates to allow a M2 to hang with a GT3/GT4. |
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Congrats! But in no world is a front engine sport coupe going to be the same as a mid engine pure bred sports car!
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I considered a Cayman GTS but they are just so damn expensive even 1-2 years used. It isn't worth that much more to me than the M2 factoring in the zero usability. Porsches are amazing but you trade off so much.
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