[Dav3]

Quick question for M2 MT owners

What RPM do you shift from 1st to 2nd second gear?

For me anything above 2000-2500 rpm results in a rough shift with a rubber banding sensation...

Granted the car still doesn't have much mileage, it hasn't improved much since driving it the first day

If not mistaken you should be able to shift from 1st to 2nd gear at much higher rpms, so I'm a bit confused

For those that will say that I need to gain proficiency with the clutch... I've tried it in all ways with the same result

Would love some opinions on this

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by lopm2

Quick question for M2 MT owners

What RPM do you shift from 1st to 2nd second gear?

For me anything above 2000-2500 rpm results in a rough shift with a rubber banding sensation...

Granted the car still doesn't have much mileage, it hasn't improved much since driving it the first day

If not mistaken you should be able to shift from 1st to 2nd gear at much higher rpms, so I'm a bit confused

For those that will say that I need to gain proficiency with the clutch... I've tried it in all ways with the same result

Would love some opinions on this

Could you be changing gear too slowly ? In other words allowing the revs to fall too far before you let out the clutch ? That would account for the rough gear change although I'm not sure what you mean by rubber banding... You really need to snatch the gearstick back rapidly and minimise the time your foot is pressing the clutch in.

[ZPrime]

Depending on mileage, it may just need more break-in?

[johnnydad]

I'm up to 4500km and find a relaxed shift up to 3500rpm is fine but sometimes find if I'm hurrying my change is a bit umm...perceptible...If anything it's best if I don't overthink it and coming off the accelerator briskly then waiting until the lever fully slots into 2nd before letting the clutch out and throttling away usually does the trick. Perhaps it's about giving the rev-match enough time 'alone' to do its thing? Anyway it rarely bothers me now and all the other changes are sweet. Still rank it amongst the nicest clutch/shifts I've driven, rev match on or off.

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by johnnydad

I'm up to 4500km and find a relaxed shift up to 3500rpm is fine but sometimes find if I'm hurrying my change is a bit umm...perceptible...If anything it's best if I don't overthink it and coming off the accelerator briskly then waiting until the lever fully slots into 2nd before letting the clutch out and throttling away usually does the trick. Perhaps it's about giving the rev-match enough time 'alone' to do its thing? Anyway it rarely bothers me now and all the other changes are sweet. Still rank it amongst the nicest clutch/shifts I've driven, rev match on or off.

I thought it only rev-matched on down shifts ?

[gmzanatta]

I usually short shift it under regular driving because of the ratios, usually at like 1800-2000 to avoid the clunkiness. If I'm driving for real, it'll be in the 4500-5000 range once it smooths over again.

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by Corinne

I thought it only rev-matched on down shifts ?

It does hold revs for a second or two on up shifts too.

[E36toF87]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

I usually short shift it under regular driving because of the ratios, usually at like 1800-2000 to avoid the clunkiness. If I'm driving for real, it'll be in the 4500-5000 range once it smooths over again.

Same here.

[Cope]

Search 1st to 2nd gear grind and you'll stumble on something you probably won't be happy to find...

[M2Nebula]

Never understood any advantage of revving the piss out of first gear, especially on this car with the gear ratios as they are. It is less smooth and in-efficient.

I almost always short shift 1st to get enough momentum going and then rev the piss out of all the other gears! Can't even tell you what rpm really, I just go by feel and my own internal auto-pilot.

[mrcheezle19]

I have similar experiences when shifting in the 2500-3k range. I find either shifting under 2k or a hair over 4k give it an easy smooth shift without any resistance. Also, I grab the shifter backhand and it feels better on the shift. If I pull from the top I feel a hair of resistance. Almost wanted to ask the dealer about it but I feel like that'd be too nitpicky. It never grinds so I just chalk it up to the way the synchros and transmission are. It's under warranty anyways so any real issues would come up long before warranty is over.

Side note: I feel the engine rev programming is best with the hidden exhaust mode for around town driving. Comfort, sport, or sport + give me that resistance more often. The bonus is it sounds better anyways.

[McPurrs]

Originally Posted by M2Nebula

Never understood any advantage of revving the piss out of first gear, especially on this car with the gear ratios as they are. It is less smooth and in-efficient.

I almost always short shift 1st to get enough momentum going and then rev the piss out of all the other gears! Can't even tell you what rpm really, I just go by feel and my own internal auto-pilot.

...this is exactly how the owners manual tells you to shift by the way.. first is to get you moving only.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by M2Nebula

Never understood any advantage of revving the piss out of first gear, especially on this car with the gear ratios as they are. It is less smooth and in-efficient.

I almost always short shift 1st to get enough momentum going and then rev the piss out of all the other gears! Can't even tell you what rpm really, I just go by feel and my own internal auto-pilot.

You actually use more fuel short shifting 1st. Granted I only have an M235 but it's the same 6MT and I've found revving out to ~3500rpms is the sweet sport for normal driving. I often do the 1 to 2 and then skip shift into 4th. Shifting the 1-2 below 2000rpms, especially somewhat quickly, feel balky. The 6MT really comes into it's own when driven in anger.

OP - The 6MT will get smoother as it gets some miles (usually 5K or so).

[M2Nebula]

Originally Posted by McPurrs

...this is exactly how the owners manual tells you to shift by the way.. first is to get you moving only.

Does it mention RPM?....will need to read that since you brought it up. Thanks....

[M2Nebula]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

You actually use more fuel short shifting 1st. Granted I only have an M235 but it's the same 6MT and I've found revving out to ~3500rpms is the sweet sport for normal driving. I often do the 1 to 2 and then skip shift into 4th. Shifting the 1-2 below 2000rpms, especially somewhat quickly, feel balky. The 6MT really comes into it's own when driven in anger.

OP - The 6MT will get smoother as it gets some miles (usually 5K or so).

Fuel consumption aside (I save that sorta thing for long trips in my Acura), 3500 rpms is short shifting. Was talking about really revving, as in the "piss out of it"', maybe upwards of 5K or so and beyond. Here is where it doesn't make sense to me. As mentioned, numbers are only part of it, feel or gut more so. Same thing on many bikes, unless they have a really tall 1st gear. Otherwise starting out in 2nd is better.

[chris719]

Every BMW manual sucks at rushing a shift into 2nd. Some more than others, though. By most accounts the transmission in the F8x M cars is one of the best as far as resistance and notchiness into 2nd.

[CommitConfirm]

7k in all gears

[cookiesowns]

No issues here. Just need to be easy on the clutch and gas. Easier to shift smoothly 1st - 2nd in comfort or traction node ( MDM )

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by CommitConfirm

7k in all gears

#NoRegrets

[stefan]

You just need to get more familiar with the trans. Careful modulation of clutch and throttle is required. This is the same for essentially every BMW I have ever driven. 1 to 2 is always tricky but keep at it.

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by CommitConfirm

7k in all gears

If I ever need to buy a second hand car I think I'll avoid YOU

[///M-pressed]

Much smoother with sport mode on I find.