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Most of the E9X I see for sale, including one I have driven, have been optioned out quite heavily. NAV - 20-30lbs. Sunroof on sedan - 40lbs up top. DCT - quite heavy over 6MT. Power seats, sunshade, unnecessary sensors...these things all add up and then you are at a car easily 100-200lbs more than a base model. And I agree - a 3700lbs M3 is no dancer. I have driven multiple M2's now and I do agree with some of the sentiment here. It feels like it's being suffocated. I think that is a perfect analogy to the power delivery. I have not been thoroughly impressed, despite knowing that the car is physically fast 0-60/etc. I also am not happy with the steering in the M2. While the car itself is superbly nimble and rotates like no BMW M car I have driven before, I can't help but feel like the car leaves a lot left to be desired in terms of feel, numbness, and communication. This is why I am eagerly searching for a late model E9X ZCP 6MT. Talking to others, I seem to be one of the only ones who feels this way, but I also think most have bought in to the new BMW model. I also can't help but notice the demographic has changed, and most purchasing these cars only care about comfort, ease of driving, and straight line speed. Thoughts?
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06-16-2017, 02:30 PM | #24 |
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Do you really think the E9x is more tactile? I haven't driven one, just an honest question. The steering might be, but I don't know, it seems like the E9x is already one step too GT for your wishes.
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One really noticeable difference is that I need to fill up the M2 after just two 30 minute track sessions (at Watkins Glen) vs after every third track session in the 235i. I also lowered my track lap time by 4 seconds in my completely stock M2. I don't regret moving to the M2.
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I was in the same boat.It was either the m2 or e92 comp pckg. I went with the m2. By all means I do not regret it, but I have a little part of me that wishes I went with the e92 instead. I love the s65. I think that is one of the best engines produced by them(personally). The f87 I feel like is to new. I miss the real heavy steering in the e46 as well as the low end torque. The e92 still has some character left in it, which I feel the m2 is just fun, amazing at track days, but nothing compared to how they started. I will be buying an e92 6mt with in the next year tho.. because both are amazing cars.
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06-25-2017, 12:05 AM | #28 | |
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Now, the steering I get. I think the M2's steering is precise, but somewhat numb compared to those early M cars. |
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So I 'm not getting this either, though having owned both E46 and E90 M3..... Cheers Robin Last edited by Robin_NL; 06-25-2017 at 04:31 AM.. |
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