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I wonder if DCT will be an optional extra that comes with a premium. That could certainly bloat the M2 price if they decide to make it standard equipment with the manual as a "no cost" option. Sure hope it's the former.
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But in any case judging by the EU options list, I don't expect all the bells and whistles that the M3/M4 has. Only time will tell.
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The vehicle will come equipped with way too much standard equipment to get in at that price point. Unlike the 1M, there is no way to strip one out when you order it. More content (optional or mandatory) means more $$$ |
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I think it was the S3 he mentioned ($42,500).
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Here is a 2010 article in which the Head of the M Division at the time was aiming for a larger participation in the M car world. To do that, he apparently, wanted an M2 priced for less than $50,000. http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-to-the-future |
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It was the TTS @51.9. He said it was going to be more
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Although I wouldn't be surprised if some dealers tried to tack on a large "market adjustment" to the first deliveries... |
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All that is exactly that, chatter. BMW will build as many of these as the market will allow, but a small 2-door RWD coupe with some track focused parts is not a huge market. If it were, the 2 series coupe would be selling like hotcakes, but compared to anything but the top BMW luxury models, it is not:
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They'll make as many as they can without sacrificing production slots to the high volume cars at that manufacturing facility. With the 1M the target was 60/month. The UK might have an actual number limit like it did with the 1M but no one knows.
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Exactly!!!! And there is a reason that the 2 series doesn't sell like hotcakes. Most dealers step you up to a 3 series. why ?? There probably isn't a dealer on the planet that has a larger 2 series inventory than it does a 3/4 series inventory. Buyers generally buy off the lot and don't want to wait for their car to be built or even moved around from another dealer. Sales people off course are trained to sell what is on the lot. It's only a patient, focused buyer that will seek out a 2 series, especially an M, when the easy button is to get an M3 or M4 that's either 1- in stock 2 - readily customizable if the buyer wants to wait. 3- a better value due to discounts from the dealer, financing /lease programs/ , dealer incentives. 4- overall has more vehicle content (options Etc-)? |
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The 1M was a sucess. The limited numbers and high demand kept prices high. This might not be a limited run but that doesn't mean it'll be cheap. If people are still willing to pay those same prices now for a 2nd hand used 1M then BMW will have taken note of that. They'll also have taken note of the GT4 success. BMW is not a charity. It's not there to provide what you want at a price you want, they are there to make money. BMW would still sell a good chunk of these even if the MSRP was the same as the M3. Even a moderately optioned 335 can be 55K. BMW prices feel higher than ever to me, in fact the stripper M3 seems like a bargain compared to the rest of the line up. I'd be amazed if it was close to 50. 55K for a stripper, 58K for a DCT stripper which means plenty of you will be in the low 60's I imagine. I'd love an M2, but it's just too pricey for me new.
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If you want to impress your friends and be the first one on the block with a new toy, then yes, it's going to be pricey.
But, the M2 is a production line car that's going to be around for a few years. Your love should not be frustrated! Wait a year (maybe sooner) after it comes out. By that time, BMW will have harvested all the money from the frantic segment of buyers. At which point, you should be able to get 10% off. |
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Sensors on the front bumper, ability to choose my preferred exterior color, ability to choose my preferred interior color, to a lesser extent runflat tires as an option (though yes, obviously the M2 buyer isn't looking for runflats), the M2 may or may not come with adaptive dampers, but I'm thinking it won't, which some people may love and some people may dislike. I thought it was pretty obvious that ANYTHING aside from the M2 is a better choice if you're not interested in compromising. I'm not saying these things are the downfall of the car, but it is exactly these things that should pull the price tag down. And insignificant as they may be to you, it's fact, the M2 is very compromised when compared to standard series cars AND every other M car in production today.
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So basically it has every option (excluding colors) the series car has except adaptive dampers and front PDC. So me personally wouldn't really call it compromised but others, as you say, might do... |
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