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      02-17-2017, 12:49 PM   #1343
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Ok close the thread, it won't get any better than this comment.
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Seriously though, when I was considering some travel to accompany my wife for her foreign military sales job, I wasn't sure whether to wear my cross around my neck or not. Sure, I'd PROBABLY be safe on trips to Canada or Australia, but Turkey was a whole nother consideration.
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Obviously then the Syrians aren't doing a very good job vetting the visitors to their country
Can you really vet an F-15 or a Sukhoi SU-30?
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      02-17-2017, 02:29 PM   #1346
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Can you really vet an F-15 or a Sukhoi SU-30?
Aren't they required by international aviation rules to have a transponder functioning
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      02-19-2017, 04:36 PM   #1347
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A lot of words. I didn't mention the immigrants in that post. Obama supporters in Chicago shoot and kill Toddlers. Muslims in Syria kill toddlers. I don't much like either. What's your point?
No you didn't (which by the way is another "strawman" rebuttal). But justinuum1's argument was that domestic white supremacists pose a greater threat than radical Islamic immigrants from those 7 countries. And then you reponded to his argument. Which then makes radical islamic immigrants topical to your argument.

My point is that your post, while seemingly sarcastic and possibly facetious, only served to bolster his point. Perhaps that wasn't your intent. Or perhaps you had no idea as to the point that justinuum1 was trying to make. Either way, the logical result of your post is that you supported his point.
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No you didn't (which by the way is another "strawman" rebuttal). But justinuum1's argument was that domestic white supremacists pose a greater threat than radical Islamic immigrants from those 7 countries. And then you reponded to his argument. Which then makes radical islamic immigrants topical to your argument.

My point is that your post, while seemingly sarcastic and possibly facetious, only served to bolster his point. Perhaps that wasn't your intent. Or perhaps you had no idea as to the point that justinuum1 was trying to make. Either way, the logical result of your post is that you supported his point.
So are you saying white supremacists should be banned? Or what are you trying to get at? We have already established there are lots of things that are more likely to kill you than radical islam extremist. TVs falling, bee stings, etc. All of those should be banned?

Is the ban the absolutely right way to go about this? probably not. But at the same time, would this ban be worth it if it stopped just 1 terror incident? It will be impossible to ever judge the effectiveness of the ban and there will always be those that support and those that oppose. The ban was intended to "Pause" the current immigration policies from these countries that were identified by the Obama administration as potential threats.

We are still taking in refugees (50k/yr vs 110k), the new regulations will allow anyone with a current greencard to travel to and from the US, and will standardize what information is to be provided when applying for a visa, GC, refuge, etc. This is exactly what should have been in place before, but we were too concerned about being PC and accepting everyone, that we forgot to pules some rules and procedures in place.
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This one is pathetic - allowed to teach our young children. Can't blame Trump or anyone for this one...

Arlington preschool teacher fired over 'Kill some Jews' tweet, other anti-Semitic posts
An Arlington preschool teacher has been fired over a series of anti-Semitic posts on social media, including a tweet that said “kill some Jews.”

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This one is pathetic - allowed to teach our young children. Can't blame Trump or anyone for this one...

Arlington preschool teacher fired over 'Kill some Jews' tweet, other anti-Semitic posts
An Arlington preschool teacher has been fired over a series of anti-Semitic posts on social media, including a tweet that said “kill some Jews.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/arlin...-semitic-posts
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So are you saying white supremacists should be banned? Or what are you trying to get at? We have already established there are lots of things that are more likely to kill you than radical islam extremist. TVs falling, bee stings, etc. All of those should be banned?

Is the ban the absolutely right way to go about this? probably not. But at the same time, would this ban be worth it if it stopped just 1 terror incident? It will be impossible to ever judge the effectiveness of the ban and there will always be those that support and those that oppose. The ban was intended to "Pause" the current immigration policies from these countries that were identified by the Obama administration as potential threats.

We are still taking in refugees (50k/yr vs 110k), the new regulations will allow anyone with a current greencard to travel to and from the US, and will standardize what information is to be provided when applying for a visa, GC, refuge, etc. This is exactly what should have been in place before, but we were too concerned about being PC and accepting everyone, that we forgot to pules some rules and procedures in place.
The only point I was making was that iamwingman's rebuttal to justinuum1's post was flawed -- from a purely logical analysis -- because it served to reinforce justinuum1's point. I was making no broader point about the immigration ban at all. The only takeaway (or "moral") one should take from my post is that it behooves people to consider what logical inferences can be made from one's post before hitting "Submit".
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The right wingers here need a thread entitled "Shit On The Muslim". Every thread devolves into some form of that anyhow.
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This one is pathetic - allowed to teach our young children.
Not anymore she isn't.
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The right wingers here need a thread entitled "Shit On The Muslim". Every thread devolves into some form of that anyhow.
They do a fine job on their own with no real reform visible.
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The only point I was making was that iamwingman's rebuttal to justinuum1's post was flawed -- from a purely logical analysis -- because it served to reinforce justinuum1's point. I was making no broader point about the immigration ban at all. The only takeaway (or "moral") one should take from my post is that it behooves people to consider what logical inferences can be made from one's post before hitting "Submit".
I was commenting to show that there was no evidence that the bomber guy was a Trump supporter, by calling the murderers in Chicago Obama supporters. Someone was SUPPOSED to get offended and jump down my throat and say that it was offensive and all that to,assume a black criminal was an Obama supporter. Then I would bring up the blanket supposition that some redneck in Florida was a Trump supporter. See.
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It was very intentional. Nobody took the bait though.
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Religion of peace.
No, you POS. Her comment although outright wrong likely bore out of her dislike, possibly hatred, towards Israeli occupation and human right violations in Palestine, than anything to do with religion of Islam. Less damaging than white supremacist numb-nuts like you painting everything with a broad Islamophobic paint brush.
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No, you POS. Her comment although outright wrong likely bore out of her dislike, possibly hatred, towards Israeli occupation and human right violations in Palestine, than anything to do with religion of Islam. Less damaging than white supremacist numb-nuts like you painting everything with a broad Islamophobic paint brush.
"Likely?" So you are basing your overtly nasty response on your subjective interpretation of her motives?

At some point did you get a twinge of conscience before you hit "submit?"

You can still hit "edit" and partially redeem yourself.
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No, you POS. Her comment although outright wrong likely bore out of her dislike, possibly hatred, towards Israeli occupation and human right violations in Palestine, than anything to do with religion of Islam. Less damaging than white supremacist numb-nuts like you painting everything with a broad Islamophobic paint brush.
X2, obviously being Palestinian and hating Jews isn't a difficult connection to make, they have been fighting each other for 50 years. The lack of awareness of what is going on amazes me.

If I found posts by Christians that advocated killing Muslims I could then declare Christianity a "religion of hatred"? I wouldn't have to leave this site.

Since they fired the Muslim because of posts about killing Jews we should also do the same if Christians post the same about Muslims?
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"Likely?" So you are basing your overtly nasty response on your subjective interpretation of her motives?

At some point did you get a twinge of conscience before you hit "submit?"

You can still hit "edit" and partially redeem yourself.


You talk of conscience yet feel no 'twinges' when posting Islamophobic shit like all Muslims are similar and the religion of Islam is the very source of violence in this world. Do you think before you type? Is my response nasty? What is nasty is the blatant Islamophobia that is rampant on these threads, without nary a thought for the majority of peaceful muslims all over the world, muslims that are treating your loved ones and actually defending this country on a daily basis.... who actually do more than type unfair shit on a BMW forum to prove how tough and independent thinking individuals they are, when in fact they are pussies who likely have never met a muslim or tried to learn their religion (except from fake, propaganda fake news websites)....the true keyboard warriors. If smear comments aren't off limits for a religion of 1.8 billion people, who the hell are you?

You also have the opportunity to redeem yourself by not answering to this, you POS.
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"Likely?" So you are basing your overtly nasty response on your subjective interpretation of her motives?

At some point did you get a twinge of conscience before you hit "submit?"

You can still hit "edit" and partially redeem yourself.


You talk of conscience yet feel no 'twinges' when posting Islamophobic shit like all Muslims are similar and the religion of Islam is the very source of violence in this world. Do you think before you type? Is my response nasty? What is nasty is the blatant Islamophobia that is rampant on these threads, without nary a thought for the majority of peaceful muslims all over the world, muslims that are treating your loved ones and actually defending this country on a daily basis.... who actually do more than type unfair shit on a BMW forum to prove how tough and independent thinking individuals they are, when in fact they are pussies who likely have never met a muslim or tried to learn their religion (except from fake, propaganda fake news websites)....the true keyboard warriors. If smear comments aren't off limits for a religion of 1.8 billion people, who the hell are you?

You also have the opportunity to redeem yourself by not answering to this, you POS.
Well, we've been over this before. The majority of Muslims worldwide hold views that most westerners would consider unthinkable; like the 88% in Pakistan, etc. that think Muslims who leave the faith should be put to death. Or the double-digit percentages in western countries that think suicide bombings are justified.

Are all Muslims violent? Of course not - I don't recall reading any generalizations that broad on these posts.

But go ahead and keep hurling insults - you're kind of proving the point.
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