08-16-2017, 05:28 PM | #1 |
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Considering a new M2 LCI - A few questions
Car seems fun as fuck, need to take one out soon
1) Does the manual have rev matching? 2) Is the manual way funner to drive? 3) Does the M Performance Exhaust change the performance sound much? Is it worth it? 4) Can I fit 2 child seats in the back? 5) Can you get them with a sunroof? Anything else I should know about this thing? |
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Yeah, the manual is way funner.
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08-18-2017, 03:39 PM | #9 |
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The manual is more fun but the DCT is quicker! You can use the shift paddles when you get the urge to do the shifting. I daily drive mine in traffic so the DCT made more sense. I'll probably get flamed but I wish a sun/moon roof had been offered for 17. I love my car and my wife doesn't like driving it because of how different the DCT is from her normal auto & doesn't like riding in it because it's too loud. I have the MP exhaust.
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08-18-2017, 04:23 PM | #13 |
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Maybe, but only if i drove the DCT.
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While we are discussing stop and go traffic, I heard that DCTs wears out and goes bad very quickly if you drive in traffic like that everyday. Something about the clutch never fully disengaging when you just roll slowing in traffic. Honda supposedly has a lot of recall issues on their DCTs and that was thought to be the cause. Something to think about.
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08-18-2017, 05:22 PM | #16 |
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The DCT is no more prone to wear than a manual transmission, if you drive it properly. You can't drive it like your grandma's Turbo-Hydramatic Impala in traffic - instead, you drive it somewhat like a manual transmission. (Remember, the DCT still has clutches.) For example, with a traditional torque converter automatic, you can just creep right up behind the car ahead of you, stop and then creep forward on engine idle to get started after the other car moves away. With the DCT, you hang back a little like you would with a manual transmission, so you don't slip the clutch any more than you have to to get moving. In addition, BMW's DCTs have a function called a Low Speed Assistant that lets the car accelerate at a very slow speed when you tap the gas pedal. It's a little weird to experience the first time, because the car won't move until you give it a little gas; conventional automatic-equipped cars will start to creep forward at idle as soon as you lift off the brake pedal.
As far as the Honda/Acura problems with their DCTs, I believe there were design problems with the software controlling the transmissions - not the transmissions themselves. |
08-18-2017, 05:31 PM | #17 |
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The M2 is a blast with either transmission, you really cannot go wrong either way regardless of what the "only manual" crowd will lead you to believe. If your a diehard manual guy than that is the transmission you should get. Personally I have the DCT and find it to be a ton of fun and amazingly quick. I have two friends with manual M2s and they both love their cars so pick the one that works for you and ignore what folks that aren't paying for your car tell you to do.
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Wasn't at all bashing BMW's DCT if that's what you thought and I never said BMW has a proven failure. The OP and others were discussing transmissions and traffic conditions and I was just pointing out that's what I heard about some issues that can happen with DCT systems IN GENERAL while driving in traffic and Honda's DCT failure is an example. As I said, something to think about and it's an interesting discussion (to me). Since you mentioned BMW stating in the owner's manual to not roll the car, one would have to think what happens if you the drivers do that everyday. There are situations where you can only roll slowly and it's very difficult to avoid. As for a manual, if driven correct, you can roll without any wear on the clutch. Again, just throwing different ideas out there for discussion. |
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Not sure how much the DCT has changed from e9x, to f8x, to whatever made it into the M2. Last edited by akkando; 08-18-2017 at 07:08 PM.. |
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08-21-2017, 04:46 PM | #21 |
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On the DCT does it have the full adaptive cruise control that modifies speed and stops based on the distance of the car in front of you.
I drive an Audi A6 with this feature and its great in traffic, basically semi-autonomous. I believe you can get this option in an M2? |
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