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      01-13-2016, 08:16 PM   #111
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Posting the M2 instrument cluster picture you're referring to:

I've always wanted the guage where you can see the redline change when it is cold to when it is hot. When I was a kid (19) i thought this was so cool and that having it would complete my life. Too bad, it won't be there. But I still like this alot.

I was 19....
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From the view on the cluster there seems to be no indents for the lights that is standard on the M3/4
Take a look at the photo. I don't know they may be there but it doesn't look like it.
Posting the M2 instrument cluster picture you're referring to:

That's the one, it's a DCT display car so it should have DCT shift lights on the tach no?
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I don't know I'm asking. Hence the ?

From the view on the cluster there seems to be no indents for the lights that is standard on the M3/4
Take a look at the photo. I don't know they may be there but it doesn't look like it.
Off topic, but that is a scary photo...is that really showing redlining a cold engine with all the yellow warning tach lights on?
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I don't know I'm asking. Hence the ?

From the view on the cluster there seems to be no indents for the lights that is standard on the M3/4
Take a look at the photo. I don't know they may be there but it doesn't look like it.
Off topic, but that is a scary photo...is that really showing redlining a cold engine with all the yellow warning tach lights on?
No the yellow lights are DCT shift indicators, the yellow is warning you get ready red is coming up. If it were cold it wouldn't let you shift that high.

But I know what you're referring to however, the cold indicator starting on the E46 M3 wouldn't let you past 5500rpm gradually until at full temp.
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That's the one, it's a DCT display car so it should have DCT shift lights on the tach no?
So i found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well i assume that's what 'shift point display' means.
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No the yellow lights are DCT shift indicators, the yellow is warning you get ready red is coming up. If it were cold it wouldn't let you shift that high.

But I know what you're referring to however, the cold indicator starting on the E46 M3 wouldn't let you past 5500rpm gradually until at full temp.
Got it, thanks! In both my M5 and Z4M coupe, the yellow lights are indications of the safe point to rev while the engine warms up. Obviously with a manual you can certainly rev the engine past these recommendations if you want. DCT doesn't let you (not that anyone would want to, just curious)?
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That's the one, it's a DCT display car so it should have DCT shift lights on the tach no?
So i found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well i assume that's what 'shift point display' means.
I guess its safe to assume it a manual has it the DCT has it.
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@MR. Thanks for posting/pics etc!

I have reservation order for an LBB DCT this may.

I just don't get the '2 or 3 way' dampening of the chassis?? Can you explain more? There is no 'options' of that available afaik. I just completed 'my' car with my dealership yesterday. No chassis afjustments whatsovever. What am I missing?

You showed some pics of that but they won't show up at my computer...

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      01-14-2016, 01:38 AM   #119
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@MR. Thanks for posting/pics etc!

I have reservation order for an LBB DCT this may.

I just don't get the '2 or 3 way' dampening of the chassis?? Can you explain more? There is no 'options' of that available afaik. I just completed 'my' car with my dealership yesterday. No chassis afjustments whatsovever. What am I missing?

You showed some pics of that but they won't show up at my computer...

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Hi Robin,

Some say that the suspension stays the same and the steering changes when you opt for the CHASSIS option in the sport mode settings in iDrive. Although I have a feeling it might be a set up in which you have a harder and softer damping (only damping!).

I have seen this before with suspension kits from Bilstein, where you have a hard and a comfort setting controlled by a button. Not sure if it is the same, but feels like it. All in all, it is not sure at this moment. We only know now there is a setting in the iDrive system, and until we have driven it we cannot really say what it does.

This is the photo
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Talk with BMW M spokesperson:
During my talk with the BMW M spokesperson, we discussed the technical highlights of the car. He told me the following things: [...]
- There is no oil or water temperature gauge in the whole car. Information will only presented on the M Performance steering wheel or via an aftermarket system (e.g. P3Cars.com).
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In the dashboard there is no oil temperature or water temperature gauge. Some people asked me this before and I got confirmed it is not there.
Did he really say that ?

Allow me to zoom in on an M2 instrument cluster picture.

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Perfect. I knew it was in the menu no doubt.
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      01-14-2016, 02:22 AM   #121
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So I don't understand how the dampers work because we know this is a "parts bin" sort of car.

I would have guessed BMW would bring either the F8x passive dampers or the active dampers, not something different from either. Is this the active option but with more limited settings then? Seems that way but why did the interviews with the M engineers say it was passive?
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So I don't understand how the dampers work because we know this is a "parts bin" sort of car.

The greatest affordable stock BMWs of the last decade have been so called 'parts bin' cars


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I'm not using it as a derogatory term, just saying that it's unlikely BMW created a whole new part for this.
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      01-14-2016, 03:19 AM   #124
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So i found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well i assume that's what 'shift point display' means.
This is just the normal eco driving tips when it's most economical to shift up or down.
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So i found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well i assume that's what 'shift point display' means.

It's a dumb system that tells your to shift from 2nd gear to 6th for better fuel economy. Have it in manual 135i. It's pointless)
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So I found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well I assume that's what 'shift point display' means.
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This is just the normal eco driving tips when it's most economical to shift up or down.
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It's a dumb system that tells your to shift from 2nd gear to 6th for better fuel economy. Have it in manual 135i. It's pointless.
Forum fellows hsb and scargizmo are correct: "Shift point display" aka "gear shift indicator", is the small triangular arrow pointing upwards or downwards + gear shift number, on the Onboard Computer display. It serves to indicate to the driver when to shift in order to use fuel more efficiently and minimize emissions.
Gear shift indicator.
Well-timed gearshifts mean lower fuel consumption: the BMW gear shift indicator shows the ideal timing for each gear change on your vehicle's Info Display. By shifting gear at the recommended moment, you ensure your fuel is used more efficiently and emissions are minimised.
The digital engine management system monitors the driving situation and engine speed, and calculates which gear offers the most efficient performance. If for example a higher gear and lower engine speed would be more efficient, an arrow symbol and the recommended gear number appear on the Info Display between the tachometer and the speedometer.
The gear shift indicator adapts its recommendations to suit your current driving situation. When you're accelerating strongly, it allows the engine to reach a higher engine speed before recommending a gearshift. By helping you change gears at the right moment, the gear shift indicator leads to a significant reduction in fuel consumption and ensures complete and smooth power development.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...hift_indicator
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I visited the Brussels motor show on its opening day today. I went there primarily to see the BMW M2 for the first time. As expected it was in the launch colour, Long Beach Blue, and the colour in which I have my order (due in July). The show was surprisingly quiet and I had the run of the BMW stand it seemed. Also, I fully expected the star of the show to be the M2, but from what I could tell it wasn’t really catching the attention of the visitors. The biggest crowds were to be found around the more mundane vehicles on the BMW stand, and also on the Renault and Volvo stands. I guess most people were interested in looking at cars they’re thinking of buying rather than eye candy which has no relevance to them.

So, my thoughts. The M2 doesn’t look quite as aggressive in real life as it does in the official press photos from BMW. The arches don’t seem as pronounced. However, it can hardly be described as tame looking. It’s still a very focused looking machine with the bodywork seemingly pulled tight over the chassis like a tight miniskirt.

The plastic inserts behind the front wheels on the sides of the car look very cheap indeed. Also, the interior is clearly a notch below the M3/M4 in quality. I know it’s on a lower rung of the M ladder, but it still doesn’t feel like it’s a special model. Different seats would have helped but we all know why it didn’t get them.

It was parked next to an M4 Coupe and there really is very little difference in size. It puts the 1,570kg weight into perspective. It actually looks like quite a large car.

The lack of signature M parts such as mirrors and the CFRP roof don’t detract from the car at all. It looks superb.

The car on display (and my order) had the M DCT gearbox. Looking at the instrument panel it doesn’t seem to have the shift lights.

Overall I am very impressed by the M2 Coupe, and I’d say the likelihood of me taking up my order in July have increased from 50% to 80%.















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Thanks again for the pics and info

Since I traded in my 1M and ETA may '16 for my M2 , I just thought: Why don't enjoy a trip to Brussels in 1M? Last time was spring last year to drink beer and more beer

So we're heading for Brussels this sunday. More petrol, less beer.

Still 180miles from where I live.

Weather should be reasonable...

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So i found info in the Australian specs stating the manual transmission has the shift lights, well i assume that's what 'shift point display' means.
This could be interpreted as just the little gear number and up/down arrow that cars have? Not quite the same as the LED's but good spot.
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So I cant get past ZERO mention of adjustable dampers in the manual or the press releases/brochure...and surely they would just lift the passive dampers from the M3.

As such, could this chassis setting be heavier steering only (which is mentioned as adjustable in the press releases/ manual)



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TMP, that's what have been discussed in other threads. If you want a bit more certainty, ask those with a 1/2 series without adaptive dampers. Do this screen still look the same for them?
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