[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I like em

There's an M4 that I see a few times a week on my way home from work - he has the LEDs and they are significantly brighter than my Xenons.

Same thing with my gf's Q3 - the LEDs are brighter and have a sharper line than my lights. More "white" too - in comparison, mine have a hint of yellow.

[desertfox73]

If this thing comes with the 2002 Hommage wheels, I will give up exactly one nut for it.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by desertfox73

If this thing comes with the 2002 Hommage wheels, I will give up exactly one nut for it.

On the same boat...man they are pretty! Probably a pipe dream...

[Bosozoku]

M4-killer.

[juyeop]

Originally Posted by desertfox73

If this thing comes with the 2002 Hommage wheels, I will give up exactly one nut for it.

I mean technically you can function with only one nut, so you should give two to close the deal

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

If the CS comes with a manual.. and no news of an GTS/CSL

I would probably pick up a CS... but hear me out... or at least.. someone at BMW AG should...

Here's whats known of the End of Production for the following models

F30 3er - 10/18
F80 M3 - 10/18 - that's just over 18 months from now.
F32 4er - 06/20
F82 M4 - 06/20 - another three years
F22 2er - 10/20 -
F87 M2 - ??/?? - M2 another three years?

Ok.. so if we get an M2 CS in 2018... as a 2019 model... and production runs through 10/20 along with the 2er... that's plenty of time to release an M2 even further progress..

I maintain that the development is being done already.. the elements of a GTS/CSL would be the roll cage... (see M235iRacing and M2 Safety Car) potential water injection system ala the M4 GTS.. Additional aero.. 3 way adjustable suspension. (see M235i Racing).. removal of the rear seat.. throatier exhaust (see M2 Safety Car)... and perhaps a few lighter body panels.

This would be a final run of a limited edition model towards the end of the model run. Sorta like what Porsche did with then Cayman GT4?

Oddly.. with a full three years remaining the F80/82 have already gone "all in" and we have already seen the standard car.. ZCP.. LCI...GTS .... 30 JAHRE.. LCI 2.0...... and now the CS is coming soon..... that has to be the end right? BMW AG and NA.. Please don't kill us with special editions like you did with the E9X models!


M2 beginning of production - 2016 and 2017 models
M2 LCI 2017 ? - 2018, 2019 models.. ? the M2 CS will be a 2019.
October 2020 production end would be a 2021 model.. that's another 2 model years...

Personally.. I don't see an M4 CS and M2 CS coming out in the next year being all from the M division until 202X when it comes to these two product lines.. And while the world does NOT need another M3/M4 iteration... it could use a third M2 iteration! Or perhaps I'm too rabid an enthusiast..

The next M5 and M6 are coming.. and an X3M.. but nothing less than 3700 lbs..

There's definitely room for another niche M car..

That does make sense. But the reason we saw the M4 GTS and the Jahre was because of BMW's centenary celebrations.

Prior to that, there would not be so many versions with the previous M cars. I really think the CS would be the only special model of the M2 for this iteration. Having said that, I do sincerely hope and pray that the CS is really a CSL or close to it.

[Bluenose-2er]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

On the same boat...man they are pretty! Probably a pipe dream...

Very nice wheels... but the lazy guy in me is thinking those will add an extra 1/2 hour to every car wash. Coating would be a must!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Look back for a "Spoiler".

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

No I posted a "Spoiler" image sometime back.

Let's have a go at deciphering this.

Over the past couple of years, Scott26 gave several hints about BMW M developing an M2 variant to which he referred as "the sibling", "the secondary car", "an M2 with widened aerodynamic kit", "a more hardcore M2", "a more harder edged M car", etc. (see here - "Let's discuss the M2 CS rumor").

1. With "spoiler", Scott26 is IMHO referring to a splitter inspired by the GT6 Vision Concept. I remember that, last Summer, he posted a render of a white M2 with ///M livery (see below) with the phrase "An M2 is testing a new aerodynamic aid similar to this." (see here).

As we know, the GT6 Vision Concept created by BMW served as inspiration for future M2 models. The 'base' M2 got some styling cues of the GT6 Vision Concept (see the dedicated thread here - "Visual analysis: BMW M2 getting several cues from the BMW Vision Concept GT6"). The future M2 variant(s) may get more styling cues of the GT6 Vision Concept.

GT6 Vision Concept:


Base M2 - front end partially inspired by the GT6 Vision Concept:


Render - front end more inspired by the GT6 Vision Concept (integrated splitter) - eventually considered for a future M2 variant:


'Base' M2:


Render - front end more inspired by the GT6 Vision Concept:


GT6 Vision Concept:


We got to use our imagination and hope for the best:






2. If, with "spoiler", Scott26 does not refer to a splitter inspired by the GT6 Vision Concept, than I guess he refers to a future M4 air intake design. It moves away from the 'base' M2 'fangs' design towards a more circular air intake design à la 2002tii and E46 M3 CSL. In fact, also last Summer, Scott26 posted the following future M4 detail with the phrase "And there is an M4 testing something similar to this. Which is a rendering." (see here):



E46 M3 CSL:


3. Maybe during the base M2 development, BMW M already conceived (at least on paper) some ///M goodies like a CF roof, dedicated sports seats and dedicated mirrors (to name a few), but in the end reserved those for future M2 variants (making it easier to distinguish the more expensive M2 variant(s) from the 'base' M2) ? Alike the Porsche philosophy: don't give away all the goods too quick.

Hopefully someday all so-called 'icon' boxes indicated below, will be ticked for the M2:

[Destroya]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

There's an M4 that I see a few times a week on my way home from work - he has the LEDs and they are significantly brighter than my Xenons.

Same thing with my gf's Q3 - the LEDs are brighter and have a sharper line than my lights. More "white" too - in comparison, mine have a hint of yellow.

Do they just look brighter or do they function better as well? My X1 has LEDs and I am not overly impressed with how well they light up the road.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Destroya

Do they just look brighter or do they function better as well? My X1 has LEDs and I am not overly impressed with how well they light up the road.

That's a good question, in terms of how this might be measured - no empirical evidence that I know of, but I would say the whiter aspect of the light itself is noticeable. There's just more ooomph to the light if that makes sense.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

On the same boat...man they are pretty! Probably a pipe dream...

If you like them then they may come...

[Artemis]

To please (also) the North American forum fellows:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Both M2 CS and M4 CS are to be offered in the North American market.

[JustChris]

Hmm well this car has my interest and $$ for sure. I think its a 2018 thing.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If you like them then they may come...

Wait, is it up to me?!?

They are exquisite! ...you can keep your BBS FI-R's!

[AtlantaDude]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

Wait, is it up to me?!?

They are exquisite! ...you can keep your BBS FI-R's!

I'm just excited that the photo was what looked like an M5!

[paulo_f80m3]

It's looking good!

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

There's an M4 that I see a few times a week on my way home from work - he has the LEDs and they are significantly brighter than my Xenons.

Same thing with my gf's Q3 - the LEDs are brighter and have a sharper line than my lights. More "white" too - in comparison, mine have a hint of yellow.

I actually had an 435 with the older adaptive LEDs before my 335. It wasn't a big difference other than the LEDs were whiter.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If you like them then they may come...

These wheels are over-complicated...

[Reedomn]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If you like them then they may come...

When Scott talks....ya'll should listen. Love the wheels.

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If you like them then they may come...

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Gatte

That does make sense. But the reason we saw the M4 GTS and the Jahre was because of BMW's centenary celebrations.

Prior to that, there would not be so many versions with the previous M cars. I really think the CS would be the only special model of the M2 for this iteration. Having said that, I do sincerely hope and pray that the CS is really a CSL or close to it.

I seriously doubt the prototype seen here is a CSL, I dont see much "Lightweight" in those mules.. According to the rumored product strategy at BMW ///M, the CSL would be top of the line models with modified bodies such as the AMG black-series (like the CSL and 2002 Homage concepts). I've read speculation in the German press (Auto Motor & Sport) that BMW could use "CS" as model designation to replace the Competition Pack and actualy include it in the model designation (M2CS, M4CS) just like AMG does with the -S designation. The progression being: Base ///M -> CS -> GTS -> CSL.

[antzcrashing]

Looks like Bain from batman. Very exciting car from bmw