Why get an m2.... why not the 340i w M Performance kit?

dmboone25 · 11-16-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spook410

Thing is.. what about the base Cayman versus the Cayman S? If one insists on the 'S' model which offers adequate torque even for the impatient among us, we're back to 'power matters'. I would prefer a Cayman S over the M2 and I keep looking for the right used one (or a 911 for that matter). In the meantime, it's the M2.

It really depends on what you want to do with the car - do you need the ability to put people in a back seat? Do you like the characteristics of a turbo motor or a NA one? Is horsepower or chassis a bigger deal to you?

There's a video from one of the European rags that compares the base 981 to the 235 - and the Cayman smokes it despite being down 60 BHP or whatever it is. But that's on a track...no daily driving taken into account there.

I can't comment on the base because I didn't drive it - the S felt right to me...

I think the M2 will be a good comparo vs. the Cayman S/GTS and the GT4 will be a good matchup against the CSL, if they ever make it.

auf Deutsch · 11-16-2015, 02:01 PM

Check this out. It's a base 6MT 981 vs an STI, which for a lot of people is a fast enough car.
My point being the base Cayman isn't a dog by any stretch.

dmboone25 · 11-16-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Check this out. It's a base 6MT 981 vs an STI, which for a lot of people is a fast enough car.
My point being the base Cayman isn't a dog by any stretch.

Wow - I am surprised that the base car was able to pull back to even over the 1/4 mile...not a dog at all.

M3 Adjuster · 11-17-2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNeonTiger

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Originally Posted by IEDEI

are you kidding? I had an A3 titanium sport package back in 2010 and it was as soft as a Twinkie.

I think the M2 is the wrong car for you. Have you considered a Lexus?

Haha ok well yours might have been a Twinkie, but mine for sure was stiff. Much stiffer than the comfort and standard settings on the S3 and m235i I test drove. Haha Lexus. Is there something wrong with getting a car that can be both comfortable and stiff on command?

Because M4

M3 Adjuster · 11-17-2015, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alden_88M

The M235i or future M240i is also tuned by the M boys/girls but not to that extreme extent that the M2 is.Almost every aspect of the M235i is not a BMW "Standard" thing it is tuned by the M division but not as much as the M2 is and therefor its called M235i and not M2

Cause if the M boys/girls were only to work exclusively with the "M" cars they would have gone bankrupt by now. Then you have the standard cars for example the 2 series you have 218i, 220i, 228i, Those haven't been tuned by "M". But with M135/M235/M550D all of those they have been tuned by "M" division but are not full blooded "M" cars.

So there is a lot of stuff to consider when buying either the M235i/M240i or the M2.
You can either go full "M" and get the different body kit wider tiers better looking rims a bit sportier engine, sportier exhaust system and those stuff.

Or you can go somewhere in between not fully hardcore "M" and go for M235i/M240i and have comfort and sport in one and the same package with cheaper insurance cost and stuff. But not to be fooled they are good sports car they have been tuned by "M" division but they are not full blooded "M" cars. So you don't have that super sport suspension, you don't get those wider tires from factory (You can add them later on probably), You don't get super sport "M" brakes that will snap your neck off.

Or you can go all standard 2 Series 228i with more comfort then sport. And ofc you can add the "M-Sport" body kit and the "M-Brakes", "M-Suspension" to make it feel more sportier but by then you could jump for a few extra bucks pay for M235i/M240i and get a car that has been tuned by "M" division from start and rather then adding extra stuff to make it feel sportier Witch will probably cost more. Or you can go as i stated before "Full M" but then the price is a big matter.

Remember if it has an "M" before its model name like M235i it probably has been tuned by "M" division but is not hardcore "M" and therefore not classified as the real "M" models. Thats probably the best explanation i can give for this subject.

228i Standard Car
228i M-Sport (M kit for sportier feel but engine and stuff probably hasn't been tuned by M division)

M235i M-Tuned car from start with sportier suspension,brakes,wheels etc... But not hardcore M

M2 The real M with all parts revised by the ///M Team therefor called a real M-Car

M2 CSL (Future) The real M with a death wish to kill anyone who sits in it :-)

I own two e9x M3's. I don't consider the new M2 a true M car. It is a half baked effort.

Just like the 1M right ? ;-)

Thurman Murch · 11-30-2015, 01:09 PM

Don't kill the M2GC for us...

Don't be posting on the M2 forum if you are a M240i or regular 2 series jockey... M240i is a good alternative though

It's all about the baseline..: just because an m-perf car is pushing so much power from the engine doesn't mean it has the supporting cast to apply that power

Yes, the 335is and m235i are awesome for daily and having fun here and there...the m cars are built better and have more robust engineering

BKBMW335I · 12-18-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Seagull

Hmmmm

Why not consider the 340i or the 240i when it comes out? In a sense, will the m2 be obsoleted by this? Or at least will some of the shine from the M2 will be diminished by this?

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1191782

Q: What are the expected gains for the 340i MPPK (ECU + Exhaust)?
A: We're not ready to share final numbers, but expect it to be around 360hp (going from 240kw to 265kw), and 369 lb-ft (going from 450Nm to 500Nm).

While I undoubtedly love the sound of the 340 it seems it is missing the pops and gurgles of the 335i, that would make it sound even sweeter.

I have yet to hear an M2's exhaust while idling but the 340 does appear to be a delicious option if one doesn't take the M2.

Still I'd rather wait and have something somewhat unique when they drop the hardtop convertible for the M2.

hyperzulu · 12-18-2015, 01:49 PM

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Still I'd rather wait and have something somewhat unique when they drop the hardtop convertible for the M2.

You'll be waiting a long time... there won't be a hardtop convertible F87 M2.

M3 Adjuster · 12-23-2015, 11:21 PM

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Still I'd rather wait and have something somewhat unique when they drop the hardtop convertible for the M2.

You'll be waiting a long time... there won't be a hardtop convertible F87 M2.

Agree ! Just saw a soft Top M235 in black recently and it looked fantastic. I wonder if they will make an M2 vert. I think they should , however if so it will definitely be a soft top.

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