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      03-01-2016, 08:02 PM   #45
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If that's the case then why are several countries sold out for 2016.

Check the definition of UNLIMITED again and check yourself before you wreck yourself
m3's have been sold out for most of last year, must have been limited production.

800 a month for an M4, it is not for an M3.

you're hilarious! funniest shit i've read all day. rofl.
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      03-01-2016, 08:03 PM   #46
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WrongO bongito.


1M had horrible lease figures
M2 has horrible lease figures.
M4 GTS cannot be leased at all


BMW will be HAPPY to lease you an M3/M4 or an M235 for probably a much better deal than an M2 because those are their mass market vehicles.

1M, M2, M4 GTS are cars that are designed for track use and are speciality niche cars. You don't cheapen these cars by making them lease deals like a Honda Civic or Acura ILX
bmw is limiting production for the m2?

Where did you hear that?

1M was a limited run. m4 gts is a limited run. m2 m3 m4 m5 m6 are not.
If that's the case then why are several countries sold out for 2016.

Check the definition of UNLIMITED again and check yourself before you wreck yourself
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If that's the case then why are several countries sold out for 2016.

Check the definition of UNLIMITED again and check yourself before you wreck yourself
it's even funnier the 2nd time you post it.
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bmw is limiting production for the m2?

Where did you hear that?

1M was a limited run. m4 gts is a limited run. m2 m3 m4 m5 m6 are not.

you can't even get the m2 with ceramic brakes for god's sake...
You realize he never actually said "limiting production" right?
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You realize he never actually said "limiting production" right?
"BMW will be HAPPY to lease you an M3/M4 or an M235 for probably a much better deal than an M2 because those are their mass market vehicles."

M2 is not a mass market vehicle like an M3, or an M235i, duh! rofl.
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Is that good or bad? I know nothing about leasing.
Really really bad as far as residuals go.
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I was planning on leasing but now...

Is anyone else actually considering paying $900-$1k per month?
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Only way I would consider this car now is straight cash homey...

Might have to start thinking about CPO M3 for my next vehicle. That would be a keeper imo...Not easy to find now, but they'll be out there in future years.
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I'll be buying. This is a car to hang on to anyway. Although, I'm waiting for MY2018 LCI - that will be the desirable model in the future
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Woof, I knew it would be bad, but didn't expect below 50%. I guess that means rates for 10k and 12k mi/yr come to 51 and 50%, respectively.
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Horrible lease rate...

the positive here is that there will be far more cars financed, and that combined with a somehwat lower production will work wonders for resale. I wish the m3 leased this terribly.
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"BMW will be HAPPY to lease you an M3/M4 or an M235 for probably a much better deal than an M2 because those are their mass market vehicles."

M2 is not a mass market vehicle like an M3, or an M235i, duh! rofl.
I mean if you see the words "limiting production" in that quote then rofl duh lmao OMGBBQWTFsauce!!!!>!>21,11. What is with that childish nonsense following your replies?

Lease rates for the M2 were always expected to be crap. BMW set a precedent with the low volume 1M and many of us expected they'd follow suit again. Back then it was cheaper to lease an M3 than a 1M. Not surprising history repeats itself. Is it because they want to squeeze more money out of you or because they want enthusiasts to own it? Both sound like pure conjecture.
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With residuals that bad... if there are enough cars out there wouldn't it be wiser to wait (if you could) and buy a used one?
yea but turning it in at 28k means the dealer will mark it up to 40k as a CPO. they probably made the residual so low to not cannibalize m3/4 sales. same reason they are not making a vert.
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49% is an Audi lease.
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49% is an Audi lease.
Great illustration.
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That is a terrible residual but that is not unusual for a new model, the finance arms predict really low residuals to protect themselves and will adjust the residual as they turn some used inventory and get a resale value history. I was hoping for a reasonable residual but didn't hold out much hope. I will pass on leasing.
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I was planning on leasing but now...

Is anyone else actually considering paying $900-$1k per month?
What is the alternative?
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Now I am really not sure what to do. Really prefer to lease through my business, but for a $1k lease I can get a lot of other cars. Jaguar F type V8 S can be had for that price.
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"BMW will be HAPPY to lease you an M3/M4 or an M235 for probably a much better deal than an M2 because those are their mass market vehicles."

M2 is not a mass market vehicle like an M3, or an M235i, duh! rofl.
Not sure what quotes you have read from BMW officials but the ones I have read have clearly indicated they expect this car to be the sales leader in its class, they have also talked about building as many as they can sell. I wouldn't be surprised if the volume eventually is inline with M235i sales.
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Anyone have any idea of what the 10k residual would be? My guess is about 4% more.
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Not sure what quotes you have read from BMW officials but the ones I have read have clearly indicated they expect this car to be the sales leader in its class, they have also talked about building as many as they can sell. I wouldn't be surprised if the volume eventually is inline with M235i sales.
Exactly. This will be an M car for the masses. BMW has already stated retooling will take place to meet demand. They're a business after all.
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Anyone have any idea of what the 10k residual would be? My guess is about 4% more.
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