[snipersix]

i still would like to be able to buy oem m2c side mirrors and have them retrofitted on my og m2. I wonder if the dealer can do it, even if i pay for the labor

[F87_LCI]

Originally Posted by Jack@AUTOID

I would say fitment is as good as OEM.

The OEM covers won't fit this unit as the fittings are different. This is a completely bespoke unit.

Hi Jack. Are you able to provide some insight on the gap of the "wingtip" to the A pillar, specifically the difference in the gap from the left and right side?? For context, I have seen photos on IG showing a noticeable difference in the gap when comparing left and right sides of this product. See pics below...

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Hi Jack. Are you able to provide some insight on the gap of the "wingtip" to the A pillar, specifically the difference in the gap from the left and right side?? For context, I have seen photos on IG showing a noticeable difference in the gap when comparing left and right sides of this product. See pics below...

I'll look into this but I am led to be believe this because of the length of the bracket that the mirror unit attaches too - rather than the design of the new unit. We've seen this before with our M style caps.

Would you mind sharing the instagram post so I can look into it?

[larry.beck]

May just be camera angle or optical illusion but to me it looks like one fin is longer than the other.

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by larry.beck

May just be camera angle or optical illusion but to me it looks like one fin is longer than the other.

That's camera angle. The mirror caps are identical for each side, just flipped!

[larry.beck]

Originally Posted by Jack@AUTOID

That's camera angle. The mirror caps are identical for each side, just flipped!

Thanks for the clarification Jack. They are sweet looking!

[F87_LCI]

Originally Posted by Jack@AUTOID

I'll look into this but I am led to be believe this because of the length of the bracket that the mirror unit attaches too - rather than the design of the new unit. We've seen this before with our M style caps.

Would you mind sharing the instagram post so I can look into it?

Unfortunately I can't share a post because the pics were sent to me directly through IG as an IM and not posted for public viewing ...unless someone can tell me how to do that...I'm not very good with IG I guess, lol

FYI, I'm not in any way trying to disparage these parts or your shop, I just want to understand if the gap is something to be expected (that can ultimately be corrected/adjusted) or if it was user error on the install in this specific case.

I have asked the user to measure the gaps on each side to eliminate camera angle as possible cause...will report back if/when I hear back from him

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Unfortunately I can't share a post because the pics were sent to me directly through IG as an IM and not posted for public viewing ...unless someone can tell me how to do that...I'm not very good with IG I guess, lol

FYI, I'm not in any way trying to disparage these parts or your shop, I just want to understand if the gap is something to be expected (that can ultimately be corrected/adjusted) or if it was user error on the install in this specific case.

I have asked the user to measure the gaps on each side to eliminate camera angle as possible cause...will report back if/when I hear back from him

Oh no of course not, didn’t ever think you were aiming to disparage. I am curious myself! Let us know what you hear back.

I can confidently say it’s not the new mirror units that are like that though - I believe it’s the brackets. But it definitely deserves investigation!

[F87_LCI]

Ok...here's a few more pics showing the gap differences from my "source", unfortunately he did not have a ruler handy. There is definitely a difference and it is not camera angle. I believe this car is in Asia as it is RHD. Not sure if that has anything to do with the gap diffs?? Interested in your thoughts Jack...

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[mjsaville]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Ok...here's a few more pics showing the gap differences from my "source", unfortunately he did not have a ruler handy. There is definitely a difference and it is not camera angle. I believe this car is in Asia as it is RHD. Not sure if that has anything to do with the gap diffs?? Interested in your thoughts Jack...

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It's maybe worth measuring the gap at the bottom of the mirror covers, rather than the top. I wonder if BMW have designed the mirror brackets on right hand drive cars to be different on left compared to the right - Sounds bonkers I know.

If I get a chance tomorrow morning I will measure the gaps on my OG RHD car.

MJ

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Ok...here's a few more pics showing the gap differences from my "source", unfortunately he did not have a ruler handy. There is definitely a difference and it is not camera angle. I believe this car is in Asia as it is RHD. Not sure if that has anything to do with the gap diffs?? Interested in your thoughts Jack...

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Yeah, I think this is because of the bracket.

I believe BMW angle the bracket of the passenger side mirror differently. I don't have an M2 here at the moment to test but I should be able to later in the week if no one else is able to before then!

[mjsaville]

Just measured the gaps between the mirror surrounds and the A pillar on a RHD car, the difference in distance on OG M2 Mirrors between left and right is around 10 - 15mm. So, conclusive proof the brackets are that way by design from the factory.

Not noticeable from a distance as there is no real eference point but the minute you put the new mirrors on the gap will be reduced and it will be much more noticeable.

The query is ? Will both mirrors be made the same so the gap is noticeable or will one be made wider than the other to address the gap.

Tough call to make being honest.

MJ

[GoneIn4Secs]

Question is how is it on the oem mirrors

[F87_LCI]

How does BMW compensate for this on the M2C/M3/M4? or do they? I can't see them producing the cars with differences in the gaps on either side...


...was just thinking about this a little more...if the driver's side mirror is a little farther away from the a-pillar than the passenger mirror, that means the larger gap on a LHD car would be on the left side mirror (orientation from rear), and if the AUTOID mirror covers were designed with this in mind (to compensate on a LHD set up), then wouldn't the effect be exaggerated (with opposite effect) when putting them on a RHD car? Meaning on a RHD the gap would be increased on the right (drivers) side and reduced on the left (passengers) side...guess I will find out when I put them on my LHD car!

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

How does BMW compensate for this on the M2C/M3/M4? or do they? I can't see them producing the cars with differences in the gaps on either side...


...was just thinking about this a little more...if the driver's side mirror is a little farther away from the a-pillar than the passenger mirror, that means the larger gap on a LHD car would be on the left side mirror (orientation from rear), and if the AUTOID mirror covers were designed with this in mind (to compensate on a LHD set up), then wouldn't the effect be exaggerated (with opposite effect) when putting them on a RHD car? Meaning on a RHD the gap would be increased on the right (drivers) side and reduced on the left (passengers) side...guess I will find out when I put them on my LHD car!

BMW Address this by having different sized points on LHD & RHD M cars. It’s why you can’t buy genuinely LHD mirror caps for RHD cars here in the UK.

Unfortunately we aren’t in position to develop 2 variations because the cost is extraordinary. 1 mould is around $38,000.

[Who?]

Originally Posted by Jack@AUTOID

BMW Address this by having different sized points on LHD & RHD M cars. It’s why you can’t buy genuinely LHD mirror caps for RHD cars here in the UK.

Unfortunately we aren’t in position to develop 2 variations because the cost is extraordinary. 1 mould is around $38,000.

you guys design and develop these?
ive been skeptical as ive been seeing chinese vendors with the same product within days of your announcement for a couple of bucks less.

btw, thanks for the shipping confirmation, will report back with a couple of photos when i get them

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by F87_LCI

How does BMW compensate for this on the M2C/M3/M4? or do they? I can't see them producing the cars with differences in the gaps on either side...


...was just thinking about this a little more...if the driver's side mirror is a little farther away from the a-pillar than the passenger mirror, that means the larger gap on a LHD car would be on the left side mirror (orientation from rear), and if the AUTOID mirror covers were designed with this in mind (to compensate on a LHD set up), then wouldn't the effect be exaggerated (with opposite effect) when putting them on a RHD car? Meaning on a RHD the gap would be increased on the right (drivers) side and reduced on the left (passengers) side...guess I will find out when I put them on my LHD car!

I know the Ford gt has passenger mirror further away from Apillar

[F87_LCI]

So I measured the mirror to A-pillar gap on my OG last night...depending on where you measure from it's all over the place, but safe to say that they are NOT identical on each side. For the most part, the Driver's mirror (LHD) was about 1 1/4 cms (half inch) further from the A-Pillar than the passenger mirror at the base. Really wish these covers would show up so I could install and see for myself... @Jack@AUTOID ...hint hint

[D22M2]

Received my shipped notification on my carbon fiber version today - i’ll try to get them installed ASAP. Will post pics

[AutoID]

Originally Posted by Who?

you guys design and develop these?
ive been skeptical as ive been seeing chinese vendors with the same product within days of your announcement for a couple of bucks less.

btw, thanks for the shipping confirmation, will report back with a couple of photos when i get them

Yeah, we developed the mould using 3D scans of an M3 Mirrors.

The Chinese are notorious for ‘sharing’ designs and these could well be a copy. I’ll need to look into it to be honest. Any patents or registered designs aren’t worth the paper their written on in China unfortunately. Companies like Vostiener, Mode & PSM experience the same issue. Any carbon fibre versions of the new mirrors you’ll see though will probably be ABS plastic skinned in carbon.

We’re just finishing the tooling for our pre-preg Carbon Fibre version - shipping is due to start Nov.

[AutoID]

Originally Posted by Aboen

Received my shipped notification on my carbon fiber version today - i’ll try to get them installed ASAP. Will post pics

Hey buddy. Drop me a PM. Want to make sure this is correct as I have been on a mission today dispatching items and were not shipping Our carbon version just yet - so this might be a mistake

[davekt]

I also got a shipment notification for the carbon units, hope its not a mistake