[NPTM]

Originally Posted by NYNick

Do you thin that will negatively affect the value of the DCT's?

I don't think it's a negative for DCT, but rather a positive for 6MT. The car, transmission aside, is still epic/incredibly unique vs G...but no denying (at least in my humble opinion) that 6MT will be worth more over time. It's just a matter of scarcity value...

[///MPECABL]

Originally Posted by pomsaeng

My personal opinion is that it could cause a larger disparity in pricing between manuals vs. DCT. This seems like it could be true for most cars in the specialty segment.

This is just an ESTIMATE and data can be skewed by outliers. There's about 16 M2 CS's listed (on auto websites) currently. On AVERAGE, Manuals have a ~$3,485 premium. When I run this data through a quick regression, the coefficient for a manual transmission is a ~+$7,457 premium. Tough to do a robust analysis b/c the sample is so small at any given time.

I sense that the CCB setup also has a premium and for the right buyer might be another sticking point. The last generation DCT is really good (as a DCT owner that came from all manuals before this). The CCB on only a very few of these cars seems like a valued option. Porsche seems to do the same, but curious if you’ve got the data for the M2CS.

[NYNick]

My guess is MT's, CCB's and gold wheels as a package will affect value the most. Maybe Misano Blue with all those as well.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by pomsaeng

My personal opinion is that it could cause a larger disparity in pricing between manuals vs. DCT. This seems like it could be true for most cars in the specialty segment.

This is just an ESTIMATE and data can be skewed by outliers. There's about 16 M2 CS's listed (on auto websites) currently. On AVERAGE, Manuals have a ~$3,485 premium. When I run this data through a quick regression, the coefficient for a manual transmission is a ~+$7,457 premium. Tough to do a robust analysis b/c the sample is so small at any given time.

Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

I sense that the CCB setup also has a premium and for the right buyer might be another sticking point. The last generation DCT is really good (as a DCT owner that came from all manuals before this). The CCB on only a very few of these cars seems like a valued option. Porsche seems to do the same, but curious if you’ve got the data for the M2CS.

Originally Posted by NYNick

My guess is MT's, CCB's and gold wheels as a package will affect value the most. Maybe Misano Blue with all those as well.

As good as the DCT is, I fully agree that a manual, CCB car will be the most desirable. If I had I spec'd and ordered my car, it would have been with the CCB's. My car had 43 miles on it a year after the release of the "cs", so I did not hesitate to buy it.

All configurations are amazing, I feel privileged to own one.

[NPTM]

Originally Posted by NYNick

My guess is MT's, CCB's and gold wheels as a package will affect value the most. Maybe Misano Blue with all those as well.

Agree on Misano - think it’s safe to assume the “special” CS color will command the biggest premium…and the blue / gold combo is just downright stunning and super special feeling. That said, HS with black wheels and gold CCBs had me drooling…almost went in that direction as I loved them both.

[pomsaeng]

Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

I sense that the CCB setup also has a premium and for the right buyer might be another sticking point. The last generation DCT is really good (as a DCT owner that came from all manuals before this). The CCB on only a very few of these cars seems like a valued option. Porsche seems to do the same, but curious if you’ve got the data for the M2CS.

Unfortunately, can't scrape the brake type easily, so I had to cross reference against the registry and looked up the rest that weren't listed.

Of the 16 currently being sold, it looks like only 2 are CCBs (one manual, one DCT). Way too small of a sample to make a precise statement. But just for fun, there is a premium for CCBs, which should be expected given that it is was a premium option.

[///MPECABL]

Originally Posted by pomsaeng

Unfortunately, can't scrape the brake type easily, so I had to cross reference against the registry and looked up the rest that weren't listed.

Of the 16 currently being sold, it looks like only 2 are CCBs (one manual, one DCT). Way too small of a sample to make a precise statement. But just for fun, there is a premium for CCBs, which should be expected given that it is was a premium option.

Wow, thanks for digging into the limited data we have. Regardless, still a special car in almost any spec and I can’t enough of mine!

[NPTM]

Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

Wow, thanks for digging into the limited data we have. Regardless, still a special car in almost any spec and I can’t enough of mine!

A good point made - no matter the color, the trans or brakes, this thing is a unicorn…ENJOY!!!

[gofast182]

Originally Posted by NPTM

Agree on Misano - think it’s safe to assume the “special” CS color will command the biggest premium…and the blue / gold combo is just downright stunning and super special feeling. That said, HS with black wheels and gold CCBs had me drooling…almost went in that direction as I loved them both.

That's the most "CSey" of CSs: a body color only offered on the CS, a wheel color only offered on the CS, and a brake type only offered on the CS.

[NPTM]

Originally Posted by gofast182

That's the most "CSey" of CSs: a body color only offered on the CS, a wheel color only offered on the CS, and a brake type only offered on the CS.

Yep, and aside from it being drop dead sexy, I think you generally see the most unique / special model- specific specs commanding the highest premium over time…at risk of stating the obvious.

But my love affair with HS/black wheels/CCBs may eventually require a garage expansion project haha

[M2CSDaily]

Originally Posted by NPTM

Yep, and aside from it being drop dead sexy, I think you generally see the most unique / special model- specific specs commanding the highest premium over time…at risk of stating the obvious.

But my love affair with HS/black wheels/CCBs may eventually require a garage expansion project haha

I have a HS/black wheels/CCB car and it’s the best looking in my opinion. Not worried about resale value because I’m keeping for a long time and putting a lot of miles on it

[NPTM]

Originally Posted by M2CSDaily

I have a HS/black wheels/CCB car and it’s the best looking in my opinion. Not worried about resale value because I’m keeping for a long time and putting a lot of miles on it

Yes that fact goes without saying - buy what you love, and drive it as intended…I don’t make purchase decisions on cars like this off of speculative potential resale value. I think we mostly all agree on that point…this thread has just gone in the direction of discussing value of different specs.

Random one - but I was watching some older review videos on the CS in the UK, and two of the reviewers mentioned electric / power seats as an option. Is that true? Does anyone in the US have manual seats? I haven’t seen that yet here…

[Crossmax]

Originally Posted by NPTM

Yes that fact goes without saying - buy what you love, and drive it as intended…I don’t make purchase decisions on cars like this off of speculative potential resale value. I think we mostly all agree on that point…this thread has just gone in the direction of discussing value of different specs.

Random one - but I was watching some older review videos on the CS in the UK, and two of the reviewers mentioned electric / power seats as an option. Is that true? Does anyone in the US have manual seats? I haven’t seen that yet here…

Know for a fact electric seats were an optional extra in Sweden, and most cars here seem to be speced with manual seats.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by NPTM

Yes that fact goes without saying - buy what you love, and drive it as intended…I don’t make purchase decisions on cars like this off of speculative potential resale value. I think we mostly all agree on that point…this thread has just gone in the direction of discussing value of different specs.

Random one - but I was watching some older review videos on the CS in the UK, and two of the reviewers mentioned electric / power seats as an option. Is that true? Does anyone in the US have manual seats? I haven’t seen that yet here…

I wish these were an option...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/bm...n-fiber-seats/

[to_riffic]

That's a good deal compared to IND listing them for 16k the last time I was browsing!

[NPTM]

Originally Posted by to_riffic

That's a good deal compared to IND listing them for 16k the last time I was browsing!

Seats that cost more than my first two cars combined haha…wild! But sexy…