11-20-2023, 01:23 PM | #177 |
Major
4033
Rep 1,231
Posts
Drives: BMW F87 M2 CS (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Europa
|
__________________
Sometimes, the simplest recipes, done well, with quality ingredients, are the tastiest, - evo Car of the Year 2020
2020 BMW F87 M2 CS - 6MT - Misano Blue Metallic |
Appreciate
1
///M TOWN16569.50 |
11-21-2023, 10:07 AM | #178 | |
Major General
10163
Rep 8,626
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
|
|
11-21-2023, 10:20 AM | #179 |
Lieutenant
682
Rep 557
Posts |
|
11-21-2023, 10:23 AM | #180 |
Major General
10163
Rep 8,626
Posts |
yes the kind everyone gets offended by for no reason
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
|
Appreciate
3
|
11-21-2023, 10:29 AM | #181 | |
Major
4033
Rep 1,231
Posts
Drives: BMW F87 M2 CS (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Europa
|
Quote:
Again , its a matter of a personal preference. Yes i like the feel of danger, i like to fight with the car ! And the handling is great for me , you might prefer a car that gives you more confidence. For the same reasons i prefer the 997 GT3RS to the 992 GT3 RS for instance. The 992 is insanely serious as a road car ,it really needs a track to extract its character. And i get it , some like it , others like me still like it but id rather be in an older car . The 992 is just sooo well refined, so well balanced , its the fastest 911 , its a beast . But none of that matter to me , id rather to have more fun than be the fastest. Maybe each one of us has a different sweet spot. I found the sweet spot of fun/performance with the F87. Your sweet spot might be different! You see , there is no wrong or right. Its purely preference , i respect all drivers and their choices . Im talking about me , it doesnt matter if you have a different opinion i will respect it. We re not kids. And thats the wild beauty of cars , there is something for everyone. And i respect every single one. People change as well, in 15 yrs i might need a different kind of experience , maybe even earlier. The plan is to add since we re heading towards different times !
__________________
Sometimes, the simplest recipes, done well, with quality ingredients, are the tastiest, - evo Car of the Year 2020
2020 BMW F87 M2 CS - 6MT - Misano Blue Metallic |
|
Appreciate
9
ASAP10162.50 philth198.50 Davil6524.50 MSH_123.00 DanG10664.50 ///M TOWN16569.50 shaneguags1192.50 kimchee411101.50 Altra265.50 |
11-26-2023, 02:47 PM | #184 | |
.
16570
Rep 8,427
Posts |
Quote:
The Taurus is garbage regardless
__________________
///
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-26-2023, 02:10 PM | #185 |
Second Lieutenant
59
Rep 296
Posts
Drives: 2024 M2
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Bay Area
|
People here are NOT average users.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-05-2024, 05:49 AM | #187 | |
Registered
7
Rep 1
Posts |
Quote:
New to the forum, but your post triggered me to register and support your position. I've been a long time bimmer driver all the way back to the E30. BMW has a bit of a habit with experimenting with how their cars drive. Prior to the Bangle era, they all drove the same. Not much torque, but engine could rev for days and the chassis were all redeculously competent. (misspelling intentional) I've also had seat time in all M3s except the G series and the E30 and the first time I drove an F82 I was like "this is a BMW?" It was certainly an outlier from most any previous BMW I care to mention. Especially compared to the E92. The very first thing that struck me was the amount of time the traction control light was blinking at me. It was an utter disappointment. The LOOOONG gearing may also have contributed to my distaste. After reading lots of glowing reviews about the M2 and being persuaded by my friends, I bought a 21 M2C. It was certainly better than the F82, but the chassis struck me as unfinished. I dearly loved the engine. It was magnificent albeit throttled at the top end. But in the ride and handling department I would best describe it as unsophisticated. Never driven a fox body mustang, but I would imagine if you put the S55 in it, that's would it would feel like. I took it to the track though and all was forgiven. Until the drive home at which point I decided that I had enough of it and proceeded to trade it in. So my take on it is that it had development done at the track and they didn't spend resources to fix it on the street. FWIW, the E46 was relatively bouncy and unsettled as well, but where the E46 was amazing handling at the limit, the F87 was hyperactive and twitchy. The snap oversteer on mild cornering g's worked REALLY well on the track. I literally planted my foot on the throttle and it drove the car hard out of turns, but on the street, it felt like it was waiting to bite. It really felt that the handling balance was optimized for 10/10ths at the track. However, 1 drawback was the too small front tires. They got hot too quickly despite how much I was pounding the rears. and believe me I was riding the rears hard and still the fronts cooked off first. In short, I agree with your position that the F87C had suboptimal handling especially with regards to hard street driving on bumpy roads. And poor comfort at all times. As for Matt Farah and Chris Harris. Matt shoots from the hip and Chris is a salesman. You can decide who to listen to. P.S. And the most recent BMW that reminded me of all the great old BMWs was, if you can believe, it an F39 with a sport package. You could drive it like you stole it all day long and trust it. The ride was still a bit harder than the old cars, but it drove like them. |
|
03-05-2024, 06:26 AM | #188 | |
Major General
10163
Rep 8,626
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-05-2024, 07:13 AM | #189 |
Second Lieutenant
237
Rep 219
Posts |
F87 all day. It's lighter better looking and more fun in track out the box
__________________
BMWCCA M Chapter & NJ chapter
'21 BMW M2C BSM 6MT MDrivers Pkg |
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2024, 12:17 PM | #190 |
Major
682
Rep 1,017
Posts |
I didn't want to start a new thread on this topic, I just wanted to post some thoughts. I finally got a chance to see the G87. It was on a flatbed being taken somewhere in Florida.
I have to say what others have said in that it does look much better in person. It looks very aggressive and has a nice stance, and I see why many like it. I'm still not sure I would take it over my F87, but it is a cool-looking car. It had some aftermarket wheels on it that were terrible in my opinion, and I know I would like it much more with the factory wheels. It looked to be a show car because it had some stickers on it. |
Appreciate
1
///M TOWN16569.50 |
04-13-2024, 12:43 PM | #191 |
Enlisted Member
11
Rep 33
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2024, 04:39 PM | #192 | |
Lieutenant
588
Rep 440
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
Dégouté
|
|
Appreciate
1
qnet681.50 |
04-13-2024, 06:00 PM | #193 | |
Major
682
Rep 1,017
Posts |
Quote:
The truck transporting the G87 eventually took the exit towards Jacksonville away from where I and the driver of the M4 were going. On a side note, I rarely see a lot of M cars on the road in my area. The M4 looked cool also. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-14-2024, 12:52 AM | #194 | |
Captain
464
Rep 716
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-14-2024, 07:12 AM | #195 | |
Lieutenant
588
Rep 440
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
Dégouté
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-14-2024, 09:54 AM | #196 | |
Private First Class
123
Rep 114
Posts |
Quote:
Until then I'll enjoy my F87 on my backyard(5 mins from garage) bumpy, sometimes sandy, suboptimal backroads and canyons. Again, each to their own but I absolutely love this car! |
|
Appreciate
2
///M TOWN16569.50 Al Bundy's Dodge1640.00 |
04-14-2024, 03:48 PM | #197 |
your average JAMF
3101
Rep 4,094
Posts
Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cochise County, AZ
|
^ Where was this shot?
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-14-2024, 04:20 PM | #198 |
Private First Class
123
Rep 114
Posts |
For obvious reasons don’t want to be too specific but somewhere in Colorado 🙂
This was last month and it was still cold here. This was actually a warmer day but temps were just above 40 and on my summer ps4s, so I’m in mdm (euro) vs full traction off which I prefer to run when it’s warmer. The canyon run in second half of vid is probably in low-mid 30s as it just gets no sun. As you can see towards end I hit a slightly icy patch. Car is tuned by Enabled with his m4 gts+ tune so roughly 485whp/465wtq corrected |
Appreciate
1
///M TOWN16569.50 |
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|