[pruettfan]

Got a call from a dealer who had a guy backout on a 2016 that is already built and on its way, I also have an allocation for an early model year 2017 build. Both cars will have the same specs minus the small upgrades that they are putting into the 2017's, mainly drive and slightly wider tires. Both deals are at MSRP. I am almost certainly going to go with the 2016 but the small upgrades of the 2017 have me thinking. In all likelihood I will just do the 2016 and be driving in early to mid July, a good problem to have. Any thoughts??

[gmzanatta]

Two things, based on Canadian cars:

- MY17 tire size is the same - 245/265 MPSS's. Larger tires were a typo.

- iDrive 5.0 will NOT be available for MY17 cars. The 5.0 software upgrade and CarPlay may be available but unconfirmed at this point.

IMHO, for us up north, MY16 is the right choice as you avoid the $2,000 price hike for literally no benefit.

[hoyasaxa]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Two things, based on Canadian cars:

- MY17 tire size is the same - 245/265 MPSS's. Larger tires were a typo.

- iDrive 5.0 will NOT be available for MY17 cars. The 5.0 software upgrade and CarPlay may be available but unconfirmed at this point.

IMHO, for us up north, MY16 is the right choice as you avoid the $2,000 price hike for literally no benefit.

What price hike? Isn't it confirmed prices remain the same? (At least US MSRP)

[stren]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

What price hike? Isn't it confirmed prices remain the same? (At least US MSRP)

I think he means the change in the maintenance plan - i.e. 3 years instead of 4 years? 2017's only get the 3 year while 2016's get the 4 year plan? You can buy the additional year, I think for that 2K. I could be wrong though. Maybe that's already on the 2016's though and I'm confused with the 2015/2016 change and he means canada prices went up?

All things being the same the 2017 will retain higher resale if that matters.

[D'Alex]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

Got a call from a dealer who had a guy backout on a 2016 that is already built and on its way, I also have an allocation for an early model year 2017 build. Both cars will have the same specs minus the small upgrades that they are putting into the 2017's, mainly drive and slightly wider tires. Both deals are at MSRP. I am almost certainly going to go with the 2016 but the small upgrades of the 2017 have me thinking. In all likelihood I will just do the 2016 and be driving in early to mid July, a good problem to have. Any thoughts??

Personally, I'd go with the '16 unless you REALLY want one of the '17 upgrades.

[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by D'Alex

Personally, I'd go with the '16 unless you REALLY want one of the '17 upgrades.

Thanks I am pretty sure going with the 2016 is the way to go. Nice to have a choice, I went from no choice to two in about 3 days.

[Ramos]

The price hike is for Canada not the US
Wait for the 17 through, better resale for sure.

[Coulson T]

Good point on taking the 17, depreciation has already hit the 16...but 4 yrs over 3 yrs maintenance plan kind of makes it a wash...all about need for your delayed gratification..
I've waited since Jan and mines awaiting shipment....I'd take any color right now over waiting six more weeks.......my 2 cents

[spiderman1982]

Take the 2017, since the resale is better. Also, BMW engineers have worked out some of the bugs that are associated with 1st year production cars. If you are planning to keep the car for 4 years and you are hard on brakes, then 2016 might be the best choice. Also, prices are the same at this time for both years. I expect in a few months, that the price will go up 2-4%.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

What price hike? Isn't it confirmed prices remain the same? (At least US MSRP)

Canada has a $2,000 increase in MSRP.

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by D'Alex

Personally, I'd go with the '16 unless you REALLY want one of the '17 upgrades.

What upgrades?

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by Franzino

What upgrades?

Likely:
Wifi hotspot
Wireless charging
Apple Carplay SOP 8/16 USA, 9/16 Canada

Possible, needs to be verified by BMW 2-series reps/engineers:
Larger tires
iDrive 5.0 hardware

[2M]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Likely:
Wifi hotspot
Wireless charging
Apple Carplay SOP 8/16 USA, 9/16 Canada

Possible, needs to be verified by BMW 2-series reps/engineers:
Larger tires
iDrive 5.0 hardware

Why do you keep saying idrive 5.0, and others are saying the 5.0 is not coming? EDIT: Oh nm , i missed the key word "possible"

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Likely:
Wifi hotspot
Wireless charging
Apple Carplay SOP 8/16 USA, 9/16 Canada

Possible, needs to be verified by BMW 2-series reps/engineers:
Larger tires
iDrive 5.0 hardware

Thanks for making that clear... WIfi Hotspot and Wireless charging have no interest for me. Wireless charging was something I could allready take on my M2 (delivery end of november 2016)... I did not take the option.
Apple carplay would be nice to have!

Larger tyres....Why? What's wrong with the tyres now? And you can always fit larger, wider tyres with your next set of tyres. Not?

IDrive 5.0....sounds nice to have and curious what updates it will have and if you can retrofit it?

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by 2M

Why do you keep saying idrive 5.0, and others are saying the 5.0 is not coming?

I say it's possible because:
1) BMW announced its availability for all 2 series. Why leave out the M2?
2) There is zero official info from BMW saying it WON'T be in MY 2017 production
3) BMW Genius from hotline # thinks it is possible

Make sense?

I previously relayed info from a BMW Genius at my dealer who said it was NOT coming. But I suspected he was actually wrong.

[pruettfan]

The only change that has me thinking is the larger tires, 10mm wider all the way around which is the same as the M4/3. Having said that I haven't heard of any complaints about the car lacking enough tire.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by Franzino

Thanks for making that clear... WIfi Hotspot and Wireless charging have no interest for me. Wireless charging was something I could allready take on my M2 (delivery end of november 2016)... I did not take the option.
Apple carplay would be nice to have!

I use Android myself and would prefer the Waze integration as I can see that being the most practical app.

Originally Posted by Franzino

Larger tyres....Why? What's wrong with the tyres now? And you can always fit larger, wider tyres with your next tyreset.. Not?

The June 8th M2 2017 Ordering Guide says 275/35 rear, 255/35 front - same as the M3/M4. Nothing wrong with the tires now, but larger will provide better braking and possibly better handling.

Originally Posted by Franzino

IDrive 5.0....sounds nice to have and curious what updates it will have?

A lot of new features, like for example conversational speech rec where you don't have to speak slowly, like a robot for the car to understand. OTA map updates - up to 4x per year. Wireless access to phone - no longer have to plug your phone in to USB port in order to use Apps. Learning navigation which will suggest your frequently driven routes instead of its brain dead ones. Better detail on road turns.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=893672

[BEM-S4]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but the brakes not being included in the 17 maint plan would DEF make me go with the 16 100%. That's not a cheap job.

[D'Alex]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but the brakes not being included in the 17 maint plan would DEF make me go with the 16 100%. That's not a cheap job.

Only if you drive the car enough in the 4 years to need new brakes. Not sure how many miles people usually get out these brakes, but my MINI went 5 years before I needed new ones and it's my DD.

Originally Posted by pruettfan

The only change that has me thinking is the larger tires, 10mm wider all the way around which is the same as the M4/3. Having said that I haven't heard of any complaints about the car lacking enough tire.

Remember that if that is infact a change (which would be an odd change), it's only for your 1st set of tires. The wheels are already the same as the M3/4 so you can put bigger tires on there when you replace them.

And on second thought ... get the '17 and do ED. That's may plan if I ever get an allocation!

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but the brakes not being included in the 17 maint plan would DEF make me go with the 16 100%. That's not a cheap job.

If you track your car or get on your brakes a lot, for sure. However, I've never needed them done with 1 E90 58Kmi, 2 F30's 55Kmi each. All three were past maintenance period in miles.

[gmzanatta]

FYI, MY17 in Canada has been confirmed as keeping the old tire size - 245/265 with MPSS's.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

FYI, MY17 in Canada has been confirmed as keeping the old tire size - 245/265 with MPSS's.

Confirmed according to whom?