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Will post here what I posted in the other thread.
M240i is still a very, very different car than the M2. I don't really understand why some people are worried, although a lot of people tend to get it. It's not abiut numbers. It's about character and DNA. The M2 still fills it's role, and I'm happy that people can get a great car in the M240i without waiting 2 years. Win win for everyone! Well done BMW.
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The 340 put down the same 330 whp stock, on the same dyno, as the M2. And the 340 has more power potential. 380 whp with just a piggy, pump gas, and NO other mods. Not that I think it's a big deal if you're buying the M2 for the right reasons... But still...this is the first time BMW is selling a standard model of a series with the same power (and likely straight line performance) as the M model. Assuming the 240 gets the same tune/exhaust on the B58 that the 340 has.
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The B58 is more tuneable than the N55. A good bit more actually.
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05-17-2016, 09:11 AM | #93 |
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I don't remember if you have taken delivery of your M2 or not, anyway, our family has the M2 of course and a 535i with an N55 engine. Even though they are both N55 motors they are really not that similar. The M2 is faster revving/ higher revving, more linear with less lag than the N55 in our 5 series and holds power until 7000 rpms instead of dying off in the 5k's. They really are night and day and if you didn't know they were the "same", you wouldn't think they were. The M2 N55 is not a "stump puller" and seems pretty fitting for an M car.
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I was just saying, this is sort of a first for BMW. I'd assume an equipped 240 is going to be priced so close to the M2, BMW isn't exactly fearful of losing M2 sales to HP focused buyers. They win either way.
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But anyway, I was about power affecting components. The M2's tune on any EWG N55 will result in an engine with the same improved power curve. The most experienced tuners in the business with the N55 have confirmed that from an output standpoint, it is like any other EWG N55. More specifically, since going to the new wastegate style and/or the associated increase in the hot side outlet size, the EWG N55 cars have shown an improved ability to hold power higher into the rev range vs. the older N55 cars. Their power curves on a tune look just like those of the M2.
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At least the M240i will be available!
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B58 is a monster. |
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Also, how much does this B58 engine weigh? And it is impressive, we can't look over the fact that the tune is also pulling past the S55, and that's the flagship motor... I'm sure there's a reason BMW is doing what they're doing, I trust them.
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An S55 puts down 420 whp stock.
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None of this deters me at all. The value in the M2 goes far beyond the torque specs. Brakes, suspension, oil pump system, suspension, electronic diff etc make the M2 a great value and overall car. The M240 will also be great but it won't have the content. Both cars have more than enough power already so I don't understand the fascination with tuning potential, yes I get that some like to tune and I have nothing against that but tuning potential isn't a primary consideration for the vast majority of buyers.
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Funny, I was on the list for the M2, as mine got delayed "only 5months" I gave up.
Dealer called me with "exciting news"... the 240i... I went the 718 way anyway. |
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