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      11-11-2017, 02:13 PM   #1
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Gas Fill Up Interruptions

Anyone have an issue filling up gas?

This doesn’t happen all the time, but often enough that i feel it’s not a fluke (or user error ). When i get gas, i put the latch on the pump so I’m not holding it the entire time. Like every 30 seconds the pump will stop (at different gas stations). i get like 2-3 interruptions per fill.

Sometimes it sounds like the seal the pump makes gives way or something over time. Real annoying and obv not by design. Also happens when i manually hold the pump too.
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Anyone have an issue filling up gas?

This doesn’t happen all the time, but often enough that i feel it’s not a fluke (or user error ). When i get gas, i put the latch on the pump so I’m not holding it the entire time. Like every 30 seconds the pump will stop (at different gas stations). i get like 2-3 interruptions per fill.

Sometimes it sounds like the seal the pump makes gives way or something over time. Real annoying and obv not by design. Also happens when i manually hold the pump too.
It happens to me the lower the fuel level is. Some gas stations are more prone than others.
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      11-11-2017, 06:00 PM   #3
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Guess you’re somewhat lucky, in Hawaii there are no latches, you always have to hold the handle.

My part time job in high school was working at a gas station. I’m dating myself but we used to check the oil, battery water, radiator fluid level, tire pressure, clean your windshield and fill your gas tank. So for us, the latch was very important to get the customer out in a timely manner. Obviously, we started with filling the gas utilizing the latch, then doing everything else quickly.

It’s car make & model dependent, on some cars, full flow was fine, on others we’d have to use the middle or lowest latch unless it would shut off prematurely. While we never knew for a fact why cars did this, we always assumed it was the angle and distance of the pipe to the gas tank.

Just be thankful that you have a 13 gallon tank unless you’d be holding that handle forever
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Guess you’re somewhat lucky, in Hawaii there are no latches, you always have to hold the handle.

My part time job in high school was working at a gas station. I’m dating myself but we used to check the oil, battery water, radiator fluid level, tire pressure, clean your windshield and fill your gas tank. So for us, the latch was very important to get the customer out in a timely manner. Obviously, we started with filling the gas utilizing the latch, then doing everything else quickly.

It’s car make & model dependent, on some cars, full flow was fine, on others we’d have to use the middle or lowest latch unless it would shut off prematurely. While we never knew for a fact why cars did this, we always assumed it was the angle and distance of the pipe to the gas tank.

Just be thankful that you have a 13 gallon tank unless you’d be holding that handle forever
I've never had a car (owned or rental) that had these interruptions.
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      11-11-2017, 06:07 PM   #5
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Guess you’re somewhat lucky, in Hawaii there are no latches, you always have to hold the handle.

Just be thankful that you have a 13 gallon tank unless you’d be holding that handle forever
It seemed like I had to hold the handle at every gas station on my ED trip too
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No issues with my 17' M2, 14' 235i, 11' 335i MSport, or 07' 335i. Lots of trouble with my 05' Mustang GT. Solution - turn the nozzle upside down and it will pump just fine.
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I prefer to hold mine...after three fill-ups I realized the handle was resting on the body of the car and could scratch it, so now I plan to hold it all the time. You may want to check if your pumps do that, too.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I’ll try next time I fill up.
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Anyone have an issue filling up gas?

This doesn’t happen all the time, but often enough that i feel it’s not a fluke (or user error ). When i get gas, i put the latch on the pump so I’m not holding it the entire time. Like every 30 seconds the pump will stop (at different gas stations). i get like 2-3 interruptions per fill.

Sometimes it sounds like the seal the pump makes gives way or something over time. Real annoying and obv not by design. Also happens when i manually hold the pump too.
Used to happen to me too! What fixed it was when you insert the handle, while inserting, tilt it up (so the tip goes downwards) and push the handle with decent force into the car, then bring the handle down to its resting position while keeping pressure (decent force) against the handle into the car, put the latch on. No longer automatically stops
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More than likely it's just physics - the angle of the inlet tube on the car combined with the angle of the pump nozzle when inserted along with the flow rate of the particular pump & its associated cut-off valve.
Clearly a first-world problem.
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Guess you’re somewhat lucky, in Hawaii there are no latches, you always have to hold the handle.
This is also the same in the UK, where I spent the majority of my life, and much of Europe.

I figured out that the only thing missing from the pump handles in the UK was the split pin that the catch rests on. I kept a jumbo paperclip inside the fuel door of my cars when I lived there, and in 90% of the pumps it would fit in the hole perfectly and you'd not have to hold the handle.

I had a car with a 19 (US) gallon tank, and in winter it was horrible holding that thing while it filled up!

Fuel station attendants would look at me very funny when I did this, but no-one ever actually called me up on it.
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More than likely it's just physics - the angle of the inlet tube on the car combined with the angle of the pump nozzle when inserted along with the flow rate of the particular pump & its associated cut-off valve.
Clearly a first-world problem.
Agree!

When I am at a pump that shuts off inordinately quickly , I have found that simply re-orienting the pump nozzle to a different angle works and will allow it to finish.

geogerf if you have the flow shutoff happen while you are holding the pump then it's very likely that it's caused by your angle of the dangle. specifically, I would recommend that you back the pump nozzle out of the fuel filler neck on the car about an inch or two. No need to jam that baby in there .. it's a car not your girlfriend
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I have this issue all the time! Never had it with any other car. I have noticed it doesn't happen as often at shell stations, but chevrons are the ones along the way home =(

I've tried all the tricks mentioned previously except turning the nozzle upside down, will try it next time.
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Don't fully insert the nozzle, rest it on the first or second corkscrew. This ensures it's secure against the inlet, but also keeps the pump at high degree angle which allows air to escape while fuel is pumped in, avoiding it from cutting off.
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i need to free both my hands at all times while filling up so i can take all the pictures and post them on the "M2 getting gas pictures" thread! lol
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Enough air has to be flowing through the hole in the nozzle, not the one in the end where the gas comes out, but the little 1/8" or so one on the side by the tip. That airflow creates a vacuum that allows the gas to flow. When gas reaches the hole, the gas can't create the same vacuum (much more dense) and the vacuum collapses....triggering that big click that makes the flow stop.

I had the opposite problem. I had a nozzle NOT turn off and dumped about 2 gallons on the side of my car!
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Don’t have that issue, In my state they don’t allow self serve...lol. Don’t know if it’s a state law or not
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Agree!

When I am at a pump that shuts off inordinately quickly , I have found that simply re-orienting the pump nozzle to a different angle works and will allow it to finish.

geogerf if you have the flow shutoff happen while you are holding the pump then it's very likely that it's caused by your angle of the dangle. specifically, I would recommend that you back the pump nozzle out of the fuel filler neck on the car about an inch or two. No need to jam that baby in there .. it's a car not your girlfriend
Ahahaha just tease it with the tip in eh??
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Don’t have that issue, In my state they don’t allow self serve...lol. Don’t know if it’s a state law or not
Oregon and New Jersey both have full service required. they both have sixty-ish year old laws that keep employers from eliminating jobs..

http://mentalfloss.com/article/18812...and-new-jersey
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Don’t have that issue, In my state they don’t allow self serve...lol. Don’t know if it’s a state law or not
Jersey?
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I have the same issue when I fill up in California, the nozzles they require for air quality don't play real well with the fuel system in the BMW. 99% of my gas is bought in AZ and I have never had an issue at all here. When I was in Palm Springs a few months ago I gave up on a gas station because it was constantly clicking off. Went down the street and it worked fine.
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I just stand there and hold it pumping my own gas like a sucker. Always have. Never stops early and nothing ever accidentally hits the car.
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