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      01-29-2017, 07:22 PM   #45
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I'll give you RS3. Some AMG. But compared to their predecessors? The old 5.5 are better than the 4.0. But you lose points for saying A45 is nice, it's one long fart.

4C another flat fart.

The Viper and Hellcat- I'll stand corrected but they're hardly modern engines. And Evora V6? hmmmm.

A lot of modern engines have trickery creating character where there isn't. Go somewhere like Goodwood and listen to all the different types of sound. ALL the modern stuff is not as good as the old. Because noise is inefficiency.
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Noise doesn't really have anything to do with efficiency at the levels we are talking. Every car still needs a muffler...

It's more simple than that. Add a turbocharger and the sound gets worse because higher harmonics are muffled. This is compounded by the near-fact that engines with fewer cylinders sound worse as well. What you end up with is the realization that it is very difficult to produce a 4 cylinder turbo engine that sounds like anything other than a flat fart.

The new Corvette engines sound good and are modern (direct injection, etc.), but they are NA or supercharged and are V8s. Same for the Mustang V8 engines.
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I can't wrap my head around spending that much money for an engine that sounds like a Subaru tbh.... The NA engines will be missed.
I did. then I regretted it and sold it a month later.....
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      02-02-2017, 12:18 PM   #48
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I did. then I regretted it and sold it a month later.....
What do you think of the sound of the new TT RS?
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what modern engine from last 3-4 years actually sounds that good?
Music please!

RS3
AMG
Yes the A45
BMW N55B30TO
981 GTS
E63 AMG
And Ford Mustang GT350

991.2 Carrera S
340i with MPPK
the 781 is just OK

Alfa Romeo 4C
Dodge Hellcat and 1LE
Viper and Evora and many a Ferrari

Even a Mustang GT
Or AMG C63
And nothing rhymes with quadrifoglio
Portfolio rhymes with quadrifiglio ... Not a car though. Hmmm
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I did. then I regretted it and sold it a month later.....
What do you think of the sound of the new TT RS?
I haven't heard it, so can't really say!
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Both great cars but the Cayman IMHO is the better looking car. No disrespect to the M2 but it doesn't even compare to the Cayman in the looks department.
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Both great cars but the Cayman IMHO is the better looking car. No disrespect to the M2 but it doesn't even compare to the Cayman in the looks department.
Agree, the Cayman may be the best looking car that has come out in many many years.
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I am really not a big fan of the new 781 bumpers.

The GT4/GTS one looks just so much better.
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I am really not a big fan of the new 781 bumpers.

The GT4/GTS one looks just so much better.
totally agree. in my book, m2 looks so much more aggressive. 781 look too feminine.

looks wise, GT4 > GTS > M2 > 981 > 781.
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The M2 looks plain and not nearly as aggressive looking as the M3 or M4. The rear end of the M2 looks like any other 3 series.
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The M2 looks plain and not nearly as aggressive looking as the M3 or M4. The rear end of the M2 looks like any other 3 series.
So the rear of the M2 looks similar to a 330i. Got it. I may need to make an appointment with Pearl Vision.
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So the rear of the M2 looks similar to a 330i. Got it. I may need to make an appointment with Pearl Vision.
You believe the M2 looks as aggressive as the M3 or M4?? Please!!!
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You believe the M2 looks as aggressive as the M3 or M4?? Please!!!
Oy vey. I mentioned nothing about aggressiveness in my previous post. I will now though.

The M2 is just as aggressive as the M3 and even more so than the M4.
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Oy vey. I mentioned nothing about aggressiveness in my previous post. I will now though.

The M2 is just as aggressive as the M3 and even more so than the M4.
The M4's butt is too skinny. The M2 is clearly more aggressive in styling overall.


The M3 is closer. At least they gave it a butt. That's the car I was going to get, until I drove both.
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Having driven the 718 S at Barber I think all that's been said about it in the press is totally right. For putting down timed laps it's one of the best options out there esp. given the price. I'm absolutely certain that I would get around Barber faster in a PDK 718 S than a GT4. It's motor and exhaust is uninspiring. There's no way I could buy one and there's a reason that lightly used 981 S's are commanding such high prices.

I store my RS in a garage at the track because it's an annoying (and expensive) road car. When I needed a car to drive to and from the track that could also take on light track duty itself, I chose the M2. It's just so much more fun, more practical and frankly cheaper than either the 718 or a used 981 S.

So far I'm very happy with the M2. It's better than I expected.
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The M2 looks plain and not nearly as aggressive looking as the M3 or M4. The rear end of the M2 looks like any other 3 series.
This is hilarious.

A 235 or 240 is plain. That’s the standard for plain in my opinion.

The M2 not only looks 10000000 more aggressive than a 235 or 240. It also looks a lot more aggressive than a stock M3 or M4.

Are you sure you’re not mistaken M2s for 240i?
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IF only that dude could pronounce Porsche I might have watched it all.

But after the 5 or 6th time saying wrong I had to close my browser big time.
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You believe the M2 looks as aggressive as the M3 or M4?? Please!!!
It's not as aggressive looking as the M3, but that doesn't mean it looks the same as 'any 3 series' either. I think the M2 looks plenty aggressive from behind-- but not from the side or front-- in contrast to the M3 and less so the M4. ,
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I guess we must have different definitions of "aggressive".

Didn't Clarkson say the M2 looks like a pitbull?

What colour did u see it in?
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