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      10-04-2017, 07:01 PM   #375
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Looks like it ain't gonna happen.
Try driving with the retractable armrest of your base M2 lifted, to get you an idea.
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One wonders where they are going to put the wireless charging phone dock thing on the CS/Competition though, since that is still showing up on the options list on these cars...
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Not sure I would be happy w/out the arm rest. I like it in the forward position when shifting and use it quite a bit. After a recent experience with PDC in a rental MB there is no way I want that interfering. No beeps buzzers flashing lights and warnings please.

I am interested in the inner door panel material. It's gotta be better than the current textured plastic crap. It scrapes and scuffs even if you look at it wrong! Mixed feelings about the door pulls. They look like they lay too flat and you would have to dick around to get your hand in them? They should have inserted a piece of tubing inside the webbing so it has some form and is easily grabable.

Two extra gauges look nice, too bad we won't see them in the M2....
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What are the sports seats going to look like? The m4 seats?
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What are the sports seats going to look like? The m4 seats?
I would love to see proper sport seats as an option,like the non US GTS instead of the M4 sport seats....they are not a good track option without openings for the harness belts and adjustable headrests for your helmet.
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I have official information in my hands that the BMW M2 Competition will arrive in showrooms in Europe in July 2018. This is information based on current planning. Of course this can always move. I received the info today among a list of other dates for other new vehicles.

Oh and the full name of the car is M2 F87 Competition on the paper I saw.

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Next year will be a fun year. The BMW will go up against the 718 Cayman GTS. I think BMW will be the one to have.
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I have official information in my hands that the BMW M2 Competition will arrive in showrooms in Europe in July 2018. This is information based on current planning. Of course this can always move. I received the info today among a list of other dates for other new vehicles.

Oh and the full name of the car is M2 F87 Competition on the paper I saw.

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Any feeling on whether we still believe the Competition = CS or if there will be a dedicated CS?
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Any feeling on whether we still believe the Competition = CS or if there will be a dedicated CS?
I believe Competition and then CSL, no CS in between. I would not know how they would be able to position a CS in the middle.

It is better to push Competition until end of 2019, which is a 1.5 year timeline roughly similar to the M2 and M2 LCI, and then do one last swansong in the from of a M2 CSL limited run, full Competition Spec, no rear seats, adjustable coilovers, more horsepower, semi-slick tires and only automatic.

That looks more natural for now...

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I believe Competition and then CSL, no CS in between. I would not know how they would be able to position a CS in the middle.

It is better to push Competition until end of 2019, which is a 1.5 year timeline roughly similar to the M2 and M2 LCI, and then do one last swansong in the from of a M2 CSL limited run, full Competition Spec, no rear seats, adjustable coilovers, more horsepower, semi-slick tires and only automatic.

That looks more natural for now...

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Agreed. I as well do not see room for a CS. I believe the Competition will be positioned to encompasses the idea of a CS with the checking of option boxes. I'm ready to order. This wait has me checking the forum too much.
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I have official information in my hands that the BMW M2 Competition will arrive in showrooms in Europe in July 2018. This is information based on current planning. Of course this can always move. I received the info today among a list of other dates for other new vehicles.
Oh and the full name of the car is M2 F87 Competition on the paper I saw.
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I believe Competition and then CSL, no CS in between. I would not know how they would be able to position a CS in the middle.
"M2 Competition" in the VINs. "F87CS" in the system till at least last Winter. Different names for the same specimen.


(source: here - picture has been removed in the meantime)
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"M2 Competition" in the VINs. "F87CS" in the system till at least last Winter. Different names for the same specimen.
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(source: here - picture has been removed in the meantime)
Yup I can confirm that this was going on. Internally, departments were argueing which name to take as has been mentioned here before.

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I have official information in my hands that the BMW M2 Competition will arrive in showrooms in Europe in July 2018. This is information based on current planning. Of course this can always move. I received the info today among a list of other dates for other new vehicles.

Oh and the full name of the car is M2 F87 Competition on the paper I saw.

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As pointed out by Artemis, the M Sport Brakes are simply larger. Other BMW models offer 2NH as a $650 option, obviously not ceramic.

Here's the pricing guide for the 2018 5 series where you'll see option 2NH.

One other unrelated item I'd also like to point out. PDC get's a different code, 508 as opposed to the current code 507. 508 has PDC for both front and rear. This to me indicates a design change for the front bumper and also why all the spy shots of the M2 have that black plastic camouflage cover over the front.

Interesting and nice tidbitz there.... both on the brakes and the front/rear PDC..
it has always been interesting that the car only had rear PDC previously
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So Europe July 2018 and US October-ish 2018?
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Is anyone able to make an informed speculation as to whether the moonroof will still be an available option? Are any of the preproduction VINs configured with it?
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One of the most useful thread about M2 Competition based on facts.
Thank you for the great job done here!
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Hello forum! As a new-comer to BMW brand -- thanks to the M2! -- this is very helpful place to learn differences of "2017 M2" vs "2018 M2 LCI" vs "2018 M2 Competition". Thanks for this great thread!

I do not have an M2 yet -- I'm in the early stage of decision making and excitement of ED planning...hoping I can organize a mid-late 2018 delivery date given some peoples timelines I've read about here.

Right now I am not sure if I should wait for "2018 M2 Competition" (lots of speculation on price etc.), or aim for current "2018 M2 LCI".

I'm not in a rush to make a purchase choice so I'm wondering if it's possible to get on a waiting list for "2018 M2 LCI" even after "2018 M2 Competition" is fully revealed (~March) but before it begins production (~July)?

It seems there's a few months (April-June) it might be possible to choose either the "2018 LCI" or the "M2 Competition" when placing an order...but I'm not sure if works like that?? Does anyone know if the last day to order a "2018 LCI" would be the day before "M2 Competition" announcement, or we'd still have a few months after that date?

Thanks for any insight on this (Previously I only bought a car from the dealers lot...so I'm unfamiliar with the BMW ordering process...)
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moonroof [...] Are any of the preproduction VINs configured with it?
Several.
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Hello forum! As a new-comer to BMW brand -- thanks to the M2! -- this is very helpful place to learn differences of "2017 M2" vs "2018 M2 LCI" vs "2018 M2 Competition". Thanks for this great thread!

I do not have an M2 yet -- I'm in the early stage of decision making and excitement of ED planning...hoping I can organize a mid-late 2018 delivery date given some peoples timelines I've read about here.

Right now I am not sure if I should wait for "2018 M2 Competition" (lots of speculation on price etc.), or aim for current "2018 M2 LCI".

I'm not in a rush to make a purchase choice so I'm wondering if it's possible to get on a waiting list for "2018 M2 LCI" ev en after "2018 M2 Competition" is fully revealed (~March) but before it begins production (~July)?

It seems there's a few months (April-June) it might be possible to choose either the "2018 LCI" or the "M2 Competition" when placing an order...but I'm not sure if works like that?? Does anyone know if the last day to order a "2018 LCI" would be the day before "M2 Competition" announcement, or we'd still have a few months after that date?

Thanks for any insight on this (Previously I only bought a car from the dealers lot...so I'm unfamiliar with the BMW ordering process...)
From the info that has been posted,it looks like MY18 M2 LCI production will end in June 2018 and then the MY19 M2 Competition will start production in July 2018.So you should still be able to get the MY18 M2 LCI until the end of June,if your dealer is able to get allocation.
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The VINs go up to VB08891 now. An interesting feature on VB08889 is option "901 Special Check Movie Cars." I guess we'll be seeing an M2 in a film sometime soon? Or is that a poor English translation? It might refer to press cars.
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From the info that has been posted,it looks like MY18 M2 LCI production will end in June 2018 and then the MY19 M2 Competition will start production in July 2018.So you should still be able to get the MY18 M2 LCI until the end of June,if your dealer is able to get allocation.
Thanks @Nantucket, that's exactly the insight I was hoping for! Looks like I will be on a mission to find dealer with allocation in first half of 2018!

I didn't know "M2 Competition" will be MY19 model...I thought it might be 2018 since July 2018 is pretty much mid-year 2018! Oh well, good to know the accurate model year designation
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