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      01-11-2016, 06:00 PM   #23
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No LED headlights??

Other than that, that executive package is nicely bundled
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Ouch... DCT at same price as that of M3 (without all the same Drivelogic controls?)??? porque???
Cost is cost... just cheated on the drive logic controls.. but there could be an aftermarket fix/program..

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No LED headlights??

Other than that, that executive package is nicely bundled
Probably with the LCI for the 2-Series next year
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Where is option 403 (Electric Glass Roof) in the list ?

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My current lease isn't up until mid 2017 so I guess we will see how things lay around that time. If BMW increases production, it may help that situation.

very difficult hard to justify going from owning 235 to M or from 335 to M.. or from 550 to M etc..
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Ouch... DCT at same price as that of M3 (without all the same Drivelogic controls?)??? porque???
Cost is cost... just cheated on the drive logic controls.. but there could be an aftermarket fix/program..
It seems the drive logic is there. But I mean if it wasn't, not sure I would agree. Cost for the hardware, ok. But if I buy a copy of Windows, I'm not paying $100 for the physical dvd. The cost of the M3 transmission includes programming, which has tangible costs in man hours to develop and the hardware itself that the software resides on. If they had not been including that hardware/software combo for the drive logic, then I don't think they should charge as much.
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I thought rear view cameras were standard on all new US cars coming up this year, could be wrong?
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I presume you guys are all buying?? This car could very well lease worse than an f80.
If the residuals are the same as the 235i, a fully loaded m2 will lease the same as a 70k m3.

But leasing is still an option. It would be 1000 a month with 6k due at signing for a fully loaded M2. Where as leasing is 850 a month with 0 due at signing. So leasing it over 36 months would be 30k where as buying would be 42,000. You might have some equity but this for sure won't hold its value like the 1M. You would need to have positive equity of $12,000 to be on par with a lease over 36 month.

So if the end goal is to keep it for longer than 36 months, then yea buy. But if you won't keep it any longer than that, just lease it. Either way it will be an expensive car.
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Very reasonable pricing, why would anyone get the 4 series coupe instead of this now?? (M4 excluded)
4 series would probably lease better and you'll get money off MSRP.
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Wow, everything I wanted is standard!
including POWER seats.. Headroom is gonna be an issue for some
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My current lease isn't up until mid 2017 so I guess we will see how things lay around that time. If BMW increases production, it may help that situation.

very difficult hard to justify going from owning 235 to M or from 335 to M.. or from 550 to M etc..
Hard to justify the upgrade? I'm not big on upgrading from oem but I do see where my m235i could be upgraded to be more satisfying. The m2 would likely be more ideal. It checks off almost all boxes for me.

All these cars are hard to justify. But I take pleasure driving from A to B. That's the only justification I need.
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THAT TEARS IT!!!!!!!!












BLACK LEATHER and no SUNROOF.... ?????


More than angry!!! Pissed.

with the power seats.... if you have a sunroof... you had better be pretty short to want both..
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I thought rear view cameras were standard on all new US cars coming up this year, could be wrong?
By 2018 is what's required.
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I'm very pleased with the numbers! The price and options are on point!

But it will lease terribly so I won't be able to get into one until late 2017 as I would purchase it or maybe it'll lease better. By that time, I'll probably want a 911 instead anyway. :O
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That is actually quite good. A bit more expensive than the Audi S3, but more performance.
You can't even compare the S3 to this beast. S3 compares to the M235i. Audi should be releasing the RS3 later this year and that you can compare to the M2. RS3 should be in the same price range as the M2. The RS3 will be another beast with 5 cylinders. But I'm all about rear wheel drive for handling and believe the M2 will still come out ahead.
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THAT TEARS IT!!!!!!!!












BLACK LEATHER and no SUNROOF.... ?????


More than angry!!! Pissed.

with the power seats.... if you have a sunroof... you had better be pretty short to want both..
5' 9 ..... 175.25 cm.
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I recall an after-market BMW rear view camera retrofit was available? I would need it, because that executive package price is ridiculous. Backup camera should be standard or a stand-alone $200 option.
The price is actually really great. It may seem like you are paying $1250 for a camera if you dont want anything else in the package, but considering the camera and PDC have always come together in the past and has cost about $950, getting the other stuff with it is a pretty good deal.

Also compare it to an M3, to get leather you need to get exec package which i think was around $3k, i know not the same leather, but you get leather std. Also get the same 19" wheels std which cost $1200 extra for the M3/4. You also get enhanced usb/bluetooth std which cost around $500 extra on the M3/4. Compared M2 pricing to a 2015 M3/4 where HK speakers were an extra $900 which again, you get std. For them exec pack was around $3500 and needed to get it to get comfort access, which once again you get std.

If you're bitching about $1250 for a package of useful options that gets you the fully loaded car, you can't afford this car.
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Wow, that's cheap. I'm surprised it doesn't have more options though (like parking assistant, like the M235i has).

"Loaded", it comes in at almost $10k less than my CLA45 AMG from almost two years ago. Sweet.
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My current lease isn't up until mid 2017 so I guess we will see how things lay around that time. If BMW increases production, it may help that situation.

very difficult hard to justify going from owning 235 to M or from 335 to M.. or from 550 to M etc..
The M cars may be based off the same design, but are completely different cars. As i havent driven the M2, cant say how much of a difference between it and the M235i. But i went from a F30 335 to a F80 M3, no regrets, worth every extra penny. Ive driven a 550 and M5, again completely different. But with the M235 vs M2, price gap is so small, unless you can get a great deal on a M235, M2 seems like a no brainer ( assuming you can get an allocation).
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Wait, wait, wait... I'm having a hard time believing this stuff comes standard. What about the 18" wheels on all the test mules? Alarm, CA included? Even floor mats! Smartphone Integration and top speed limiter? C'mon, really? I wish it came with all of this, but I'll reserve judgement until I officially see something from BMW.

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Standard

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2VZ 19" Black Light-Alloy Wheel Double-SpokeStyle 437 M with Mixed Perf. Tires STD
(19x9.0, 245/35 R19 front and 19x9.0, 265/35 R19 rear)
302 Alarm System STD
319 Universal garage-door opener STD
322 Comfort Access keyless entry STD
423 Floor mats STD
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6NS Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration STD
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840 Increased top speed limiter STD
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Very reasonable pricing, why would anyone get the 4 series coupe instead of this now?? (M4 excluded)
People usually dont just think I have $x what car cost this dolar amount. Although both 2 door, the 4 series is bigger, can fit more comfortably and is a great daily driver, most people who buy the 4 series arent dreaming of owning an M4 or other sports car. M2 is a very niche product.
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Because, US lazy as fuck.

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Same gearbox and Drivelogic, you are just missing the button to individually select the mode. So nothing unexpected.

I wonder why the garage opener is US only thing, I would also like to have that.
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