[ChrisK]

Has anyone in Illinois gotten an allocation spot?

[Imola3]

If one were to order an M2 right now how long would it take to get one? 6 months? A year?

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by Imola3

If one were to order an M2 right now how long would it take to get one? 6 months? A year?

Fall 2017 or thereabouts.

[dalrx]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Fall 2017 or thereabouts.

How do you know this...are you a bmw insider? They maybe able to ramp up when the initial 2016 model yr is done and 2017 gets rolling onward. These boards have useful info in some regards buts others is mere speculation based on current gut feelings.

[le panecito]

Originally Posted by Imola3

If one were to order an M2 right now how long would it take to get one? 6 months? A year?

Guess it all depends on the dealer you go to and how many people they've already got wait listed. To be honest, looking at some of the numbers people have been posting, there are certain dealers with wait lists in the double-digits. If you figure the most high-volume dealers may get 1-2 slots each month (just speculating), and then another few months between the time you actual get a production slot and the time the car is actually put into production, then another couple months from production until the car arrives, you could be waiting quite some time. Again, it all depends.

[Imola3]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Fall 2017 or thereabouts.

Originally Posted by hbcubs

Guess it all depends on the dealer you go to and how many people they've already got wait listed. To be honest, looking at some of the numbers people have been posting, there are certain dealers with wait lists in the double-digits. If you figure the most high-volume dealers may get 1-2 slots each month (just speculating), and then another few months between the time you actual get a production slot and the time the car is actually put into production, then another couple months from production until the car arrives, you could be waiting quite some time. Again, it all depends.

If this is the case then I would just go second hand. It won't be too hard to get one of these in the spec you want since it only has 4 different color options and 2 other options.

What about European delivery? Is there a shorter wait for that? I'm looking to get my car in about 10 months time at the latest. I am going to call around to dealers but I know they will probably be full of shit

[le panecito]

Originally Posted by Imola3

If this is the case then I would just go second hand. It won't be too hard to get one of these in the spec you want since it only has 4 different color options and 2 other options.

What about European delivery? Is there a shorter wait for that? I'm looking to get my car in about 10 months time at the latest. I am going to call around to dealers but I know they will probably be full of shit

The wait is still the same regardless of ED or not. You're still going by your own dealer's allocation availability.

[chmura]

Anyone on Steve Thomas waiting list place an order yet? Anyone on here that is on the 1-3 spot on their list??

[BurpZilla]

I'm number 4 out of 7 @ my dealer in Jacksonville. #1 got his, # 2 is being built, number 3 pending.

[G8rGrl]

Any word on if more allocations were released today?

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by dalrx

How do you know this...are you a bmw insider? They maybe able to ramp up when the initial 2016 model yr is done and 2017 gets rolling onward. These boards have useful info in some regards buts others is mere speculation based on current gut feelings.

I myself am not, but to make answer short, yes.

BMW will keep numbers low on purpose, as it's supposed to be a hard-to-get car and is being used to move people up to an M4 or down to M235i.

To put into perspective - for every 10 or so cars built at Leipzig, ONE car is a 2-series coupe - the rest are the 1-series or the new Tourer and Grand Tourer FWD cars.

Now, that one car could be one of all the gas and diesel variants (228, 220d, etc, etc, etc), the M235i and the M2.

So if we assume a best case scenario of say one M2 every five or so coupes in total, that means for every 50 cars Leipzig makes, ONE is a M2.

One last point to consider: the 2-series family of coupes is by far the lowest sales family for all of BMW. So while the M2 is a life-saving, paradigm-shifting dream machine, it simply doesn't make enough money to justify building a shitload of them. It's a much more effective tool as a pseudo-halo car that draws people in, and when they realize it'll be 12-18 months out, they pick another BMW.

[andrettifan]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

I myself am not, but to make answer short, yes.

BMW will keep numbers low on purpose, as it's supposed to be a hard-to-get car and is being used to move people up to an M4 or down to M235i.

To put into perspective - for every 10 or so cars built at Leipzig, ONE car is a 2-series coupe - the rest are the 1-series or the new Tourer and Grand Tourer FWD cars.

Now, that one car could be one of all the gas and diesel variants (228, 220d, etc, etc, etc), the M235i and the M2.

So if we assume a best case scenario of say one M2 every five or so coupes in total, that means for every 50 cars Leipzig makes, ONE is a M2.

One last point to consider: the 2-series family of coupes is by far the lowest sales family for all of BMW. So while the M2 is a life-saving, paradigm-shifting dream machine, it simply doesn't make enough money to justify building a shitload of them. It's a much more effective tool as a pseudo-halo car that draws people in, and when they realize it'll be 12-18 months out, they pick another BMW.

I'm not convinced that everyone or even most will "pick another BMW". It would be interesting to run a survey on this forum to see who has given up and what they have bought instead. I just don't see this as a win-win situation for BMW. Part of the marketing strategy for the M2 was supposedly to drawn in a younger target market who might not have been able to afford an M4, but if that is so, then some (many?) of those consumers are not brand loyal to BMW.

I am, so I'm hanging in there, but if there is a deliberate strategy on BMW's part to hold back supply as part of some halo model strategy, I'm not sure it's going to work out the way BMW might be thinking it will.

[MisterGoober]

Originally Posted by andrettifan

I'm not convinced that everyone or even most will "pick another BMW". It would be interesting to run a survey on this forum to see who has given up and what they have bought instead. I just don't see this as a win-win situation for BMW. Part of the marketing strategy for the M2 was supposedly to drawn in a younger target market who might not have been able to afford an M4, but if that is so, then some (many?) of those consumers are not brand loyal to BMW.

I am, so I'm hanging in there, but if there is a deliberate strategy on BMW's part to hold back supply as part of some halo model strategy, I'm not sure it's going to work out the way BMW might be thinking it will.

I'm probably part of their target. Not brand loyal and was drawn in by the M2. Dealers tried to sway me to either the M4 or the M235i, but neither are the M2. I'll either wait for the M2 or get something else entirely.

[Ex-MINI]

Originally Posted by andrettifan

I'm not convinced that everyone or even most will "pick another BMW". It would be interesting to run a survey on this forum to see who has given up and what they have bought instead. I just don't see this as a win-win situation for BMW. Part of the marketing strategy for the M2 was supposedly to drawn in a younger target market who might not have been able to afford an M4, but if that is so, then some (many?) of those consumers are not brand loyal to BMW.

I am, so I'm hanging in there, but if there is a deliberate strategy on BMW's part to hold back supply as part of some halo model strategy, I'm not sure it's going to work out the way BMW might be thinking it will.

Not sure about the rest of the target audience, but I'd be looking elsewhere if the M2 doesn't work out.

The M4 is a great car, but just too big for my taste...generally prefer smaller sports cars. The M3 would be a candidate if I was looking for a 4 door sedan, but my wife already drives a people mover.

M235 I do like, but in that price range I think there is better value elsewhere.

[le panecito]

Originally Posted by Ex-MINI

Not sure about the rest of the target audience, but I'd be looking elsewhere if the M2 doesn't work out.

The M4 is a great car, but just too big for my taste...generally prefer smaller sports cars. The M3 would be a candidate if I was looking for a 4 door sedan, but my wife already drives a people mover.

M235 I do like, but in that price range I think there is better value elsewhere.

I'm in the same boat. If I can't get the M2 (hopefully not the case as I'm now #2 at my dealer), then I'm going to look elsewhere. BMW is not going to convince me to get an M3/M4 or an M235i. None of those cars are compelling enough, at least not for me.

[MisterGoober]

Originally Posted by hbcubs

I'm in the same boat. If I can't get the M2 (hopefully not the case as I'm now #2 at my dealer), then I'm going to look elsewhere. BMW is not going to convince me to get an M3/M4 or an M235i. None of those cars are compelling enough, at least not for me.

+1, hopefully they realize this and ramp up inventory.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by andrettifan

I'm not convinced that everyone or even most will "pick another BMW". It would be interesting to run a survey on this forum to see who has given up and what they have bought instead. I just don't see this as a win-win situation for BMW. Part of the marketing strategy for the M2 was supposedly to drawn in a younger target market who might not have been able to afford an M4, but if that is so, then some (many?) of those consumers are not brand loyal to BMW.

I am, so I'm hanging in there, but if there is a deliberate strategy on BMW's part to hold back supply as part of some halo model strategy, I'm not sure it's going to work out the way BMW might be thinking it will.

I agree and it is a very valid point. I believe that folks looking for an M2-like car (A45, CLA45, RS3, etc.) will definitely cross shop and maybe even go to another brand if they can't get one - that's a gamble BMW made and we will see how it pays off.

At the end of the day, folks like myself who truly ONLY want an M2 will wait for it.

Originally Posted by MisterGoober

+1, hopefully they realize this and ramp up inventory.

To all the folks who are holding onto the idea that production will magically ramp up for next year: it won't. It's really that simple - they want to keep it limited plus they really just can't make that many due to plant limitations. So if you are truly set on a M2,get in line and prepare for a lot of long, frustrating days ahead.

[miiipilot]

Originally Posted by Imola3

If this is the case then I would just go second hand. It won't be too hard to get one of these in the spec you want since it only has 4 different color options and 2 other options.

What about European delivery? Is there a shorter wait for that? I'm looking to get my car in about 10 months time at the latest. I am going to call around to dealers but I know they will probably be full of shit

Actually ED would probably be harder to do and a longer wait. Some dealers have flat out refused to do a ED option, unless you are willing to pay a premium. I started this whole process well over a year ago, was #1 on 4 lists. I just recently found out that if I would've waited for the 1st configurable allocation from any other those dealers, the prod date was end of June with a delivery @ end of Aug provided no other complications came up. That could've pushed it into a MY '17. That's why I chose to just close on a HEA car.

It may be possible, but unless you are top 5 on a list, I don't think you'll make your window.

[miiipilot]

Originally Posted by MisterGoober

+1, hopefully they realize this and ramp up inventory.

Some parts of me hope they do NOT ramp it up.

[MisterGoober]

Originally Posted by miiipilot

Some parts of me hope they do NOT ramp it up.

True, it's a longer wait, but the cars will hold their value far better. The current lease residual concerns me a little. It should also get interesting when BMW updates the M235i to the M240i, presumably with the B58.

[IwannaM2]

I am expecting to hear from my dealer tomorrow (will call them if they don't reach out first) to start production on my allocation. I put a deposit down in January to hold this #1 spot behind the HEA. I will update this post tomorrow after I get word from the dealer (southern PA).

[Shankska]

Originally Posted by IwannaM2

I am expecting to hear from my dealer tomorrow (will call them if they don't reach out first) to start production on my allocation. I put a deposit down in January to hold this #1 spot behind the HEA. I will update this post tomorrow after I get word from the dealer (southern PA).

Good luck. Apparently all MY2016 allocation have been given out to the dealerships. Your next best bet is June allocation, for July production/build week.