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      01-02-2017, 09:59 AM   #1
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PCD M Drivers Package Question

Dealer is telling me that if I don't purchase the optional "M Driver's Package" I will not get to drive an M on the track with standard "free" PCD? Just a standard non-M car. I know the M driver's package is a full 1 day performance driving class and raises your top speed. But it was my understanding that with standard PCD you still get to take a car similar to yours (meaning another M2, since I am buying an M2) out on the track for a short period of time. So it's my understanding that I will still get to drive an M2 on the track without purchasing the M Driver's Package. Can somebody that has recently done PCD (without purchasing the M drivers package) for their M2 confirm this?
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Dealer is telling me that if I don't purchase the optional "M Driver's Package" I will not get to drive an M on the track with standard "free" PCD? Just a standard non-M car. I know the M driver's package is a full 1 day performance driving class and raises your top speed. But it was my understanding that with standard PCD you still get to take a car similar to yours (meaning another M2, since I am buying an M2) out on the track for a short period of time. So it's my understanding that I will still get to drive an M2 on the track without purchasing the M Driver's Package. Can somebody that has recently done PCD (without purchasing the M drivers package) for their M2 confirm this?
From what I've heard from people who recently completed free PCD you will be driving a 340i on the track and an X5 on the off-road course. If you opt for m drivers Package I believe you are able to drive the m2, and m3/4 on the track. There are plenty of videos on YouTube showing the whole thing.
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Dealer is telling me that if I don't purchase the optional "M Driver's Package" I will not get to drive an M on the track with standard "free" PCD? Just a standard non-M car. I know the M driver's package is a full 1 day performance driving class and raises your top speed. But it was my understanding that with standard PCD you still get to take a car similar to yours (meaning another M2, since I am buying an M2) out on the track for a short period of time. So it's my understanding that I will still get to drive an M2 on the track without purchasing the M Driver's Package. Can somebody that has recently done PCD (without purchasing the M drivers package) for their M2 confirm this?
I did the performance center delivery of my 2017 M2 on September 23, 2016 in Spartanburg, SC and drove a 340 on the skid pad to show the stability control (everyone did regardless of what car they were picking up) but was in a M2 DCT for everything else (braking/crash avoidance demonstration and track) prior to being in a X3/X5 for the off road coarse. So unless they've changed things since that time, you will be in a M2 for the free option of choosing to accept delivery at the performance center in Spartanburg, SC. If you wish to call the performance center in Spartanburg,SC directly to confirm, the phone number is (864) 968-3000.
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I did the performance center delivery of my 2017 M2 on September 23, 2016 in Spartanburg, SC and drove a 340 on the skid pad to show the stability control (everyone did regardless of what car they were picking up) but was in a M2 DCT for everything else (braking/crash avoidance demonstration and track) prior to being in a X3/X5 for the off road coarse. So unless they've changed things since that time, you will be in a M2 for the free option of choosing to accept delivery at the performance center in Spartanburg, SC. If you wish to call the performance center in Spartanburg,SC directly to confirm, the phone number is (864) 968-3000.
That is great! The few people I spoke to about PCD had not driven an m2 for the track portion. Maybe they had not added an m2 to the fleet yet when they took delivery. I am doing free PCD and had settled for expecting a 340 so this is a much welcomed surprise for me as well
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I did PCD and drove the M2 on the track and the X5 on the trails.

340 was used for the skidpad portion.

The entire concept of PCD is driving on track the same model you purchased.
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I did the performance center delivery of my 2017 M2 on September 23, 2016 in Spartanburg, SC and drove a 340 on the skid pad to show the stability control (everyone did regardless of what car they were picking up) but was in a M2 DCT for everything else (braking/crash avoidance demonstration and track) prior to being in a X3/X5 for the off road coarse. So unless they've changed things since that time, you will be in a M2 for the free option of choosing to accept delivery at the performance center in Spartanburg, SC. If you wish to call the performance center in Spartanburg,SC directly to confirm, the phone number is (864) 968-3000.
Thank you for the info. That's good to hear... So unless something changed recently, it sounds like I would still get to do some track driving in an M2. Even if I only get to drive a 340 and X, standard PCD still seems like it's worth doing. And the M Driver's Package is not worth it.

Unfortunately, the Performance Center is closed today for the holiday. My dealer is supposed to call the performance center and confirm for me, but I will give the performance center a call too when they reopen.
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I did the performance center delivery of my 2017 M2 on September 23, 2016 in Spartanburg, SC and drove a 340 on the skid pad to show the stability control (everyone did regardless of what car they were picking up) but was in a M2 DCT for everything else (braking/crash avoidance demonstration and track) prior to being in a X3/X5 for the off road coarse. So unless they've changed things since that time, you will be in a M2 for the free option of choosing to accept delivery at the performance center in Spartanburg, SC. If you wish to call the performance center in Spartanburg,SC directly to confirm, the phone number is (864) 968-3000.
Thank you for the info. That's good to hear... So unless something changed recently, it sounds like I would still get to do some track driving in an M2. Even if I only get to drive a 340 and X, standard PCD still seems like it's worth doing. And the M Driver's Package is not worth it.

Unfortunately, the Performance Center is closed today for the holiday. My dealer is supposed to call the performance center and confirm for me, but I will give the performance center a call too when they reopen.
Just confirming what the others have said...I did PCD on 12/16/16 and drove an M2 for the high speed braking and the slalom course. We all drove a 3 series for the skid pad and an X5 for the off road course. The instructors take you for a hot lap in an M3, that was an awesome experience because those guys can drive! Everyone in my delivery group drove the car they were taking delivery of, even the guy taking home an i8. Three of us took deliveries of M2s and we all had them as our primary driving car. You do NOT need to get the extra package to take advantage of the stuff at PCD.
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Did PCD on 12/19 like others have said M2 for handling and break course with 340i on skid pad. For those who say going during colder months arent good, Im going to say your wrong. Tiny class means more seat time and track time. Pretty much me and 1 other person had Matt Mullins. ‎Chief Driving Instructor. Doing one on one. Normally small classes ive heard finish around 1.30pm. Got done around 3.30pm because of extra track time
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Did PCD on 12/19 like others have said M2 for handling and break course with 340i on skid pad. For those who say going during colder months arent good, Im going to say your wrong. Tiny class means more seat time and track time. Pretty much me and 1 other person had Matt Mullins. ‎Chief Driving Instructor. Doing one on one. Normally small classes ive heard finish around 1.30pm. Got done around 3.30pm because of extra track time
Exact same experience on 12/20! Just my wife and I in the M2 and another couple in their M3. Was a pretty cool day!
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This is great to hear. I'm really excited now. I also just got my PCD delivery date for 3/15/17 !!!
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It's going to be awesome! I'm scheduled for next Wednesday!!
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I did PCD and drove the M2 on the track and the X5 on the trails.

340 was used for the skidpad portion.

The entire concept of PCD is driving on track the same model you purchased.
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It's going to be awesome! I'm scheduled for next Wednesday!!
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I'm taking PCD delivery next Wednesday too. See you on the track

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Pass on the M drivers package and take those dollars and your BMWCCA membership (15% discount) and sign out for the 2 day M School. Way better use of the dollars. I can tell you that 2 day program is awesome, your driving M2,3 and 4's all day for 2 days, you get your own car so if your in the car your driving and you learn a ton. Happy I spent the money it was an awesome experience.
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I'm taking PCD delivery next Wednesday too. See you on the track

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Hope you all have fun doing your PCD next week!

I little over two months to go the wait is killing me.

Thanks for the advice on the M school. I need to look into joining BMWCCA.
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Hope you all have fun doing your PCD next week!

I little over two months to go the wait is killing me.

Thanks for the advice on the M school. I need to look into joining BMWCCA.
Thanks! The wait is brutal though... The only way I've made it this far is from this forum and all the pics everyone is posting.
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I did PCD on 12/15 and I was the only one taking delivery. I did all of the events, including the skid pad in the DCT LBB M2.

That sales person is BS'ing you into having to get that useless package.

Enjoy your delivery!!

I will be posting my experience soon, it was such a blast and felt personalized because I was by myself.
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PCD delivery = 1 Day M School?

I am #2 for MY2018 M2 with PCD.
I want to bring a friend to experience the same seat time as me. Buying 1 Day M School for my friend sounds like it would do this. An earlier post mentioned that attendees were not all PCD clients so I assume they were in 1 Day M School.
Has anyone done this with a friend and/or significant other?

Thanks in advance.
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I am #2 for MY2018 M2 with PCD.
I want to bring a friend to experience the same seat time as me. Buying 1 Day M School for my friend sounds like it would do this. An earlier post mentioned that attendees were not all PCD clients so I assume they were in 1 Day M School.
Has anyone done this with a friend and/or significant other?

Thanks in advance.
M School and PCD are two different beasts. M School it's just you in the car (each participant gets a car). You'll do the skid pad, braking, and slalom/autocross course in both, but M School will add figure 8, rat race, longer (Oktoberfest) course with a long straight, and area 7 (hill section in the back).

I've done several BMW CCA M School events and it's well worth it. Price was $660 (it's $750 or so this year)--lots of track time and sort of a combination of 1 and 2 day M Schools. Price is cheaper since you're splitting a car with another driver. Each time I've gone, it's been slightly different as the instructors change it up. One time, Laura Hayes had us to do J-turns on the upper skid pad area. Another time, Evan York lets had us try and drift around a figure 8 on the upper skid pad area. The larger skid pad area also varies by instructor, some like Raphael were quite strict on instruction on CPR. Derek challenged us to see who could drift furthest (laps) around. Lots of fun.
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I am #2 for MY2018 M2 with PCD.
I want to bring a friend to experience the same seat time as me. Buying 1 Day M School for my friend sounds like it would do this. An earlier post mentioned that attendees were not all PCD clients so I assume they were in 1 Day M School.
Has anyone done this with a friend and/or significant other?

Thanks in advance.

I just did PCD this past Wednesday... It was awesome! My wife and I went together. Here's the breakdown of the days events.

-Arrive at performance center and go through high level overview of the day (slide presentation)
-Go outside and get in the same model car your picking up. (I was in a LBB DCT M2. I didn't see any manual options available)
-You and your guest ride together in the car and the instructor is coaching you via a radio inside the car.
-Track time! The track portion is about a 30 second lap and you get to go hard on it for 10-15 minutes (about 20+ laps). Then you switch drivers and your guest does the exact same. It's perfect because both people get the same about of driving.
-Break Testing: Same as above except you accelerate hard (to 45+ mph) and then jump on the breaks. Each person went 3-4 times.
-Skid Pad: Every person was able to drive around the skip pad 4 times. Twice with DSC off and twice off. We did this is a 340i.
-Hot Lap: You and your guest are in a M3 with a driving instructor and they rip around the entire circuit (~2-3 min lap).

The rest of the day is delivery, off roading in an x5, and the museum right now. The manufacturing facility is closed until 2018 for tours.

This is probably one of the coolest things I've ever done!
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I just did PCD this past Wednesday... It was awesome! My wife and I went together. Here's the breakdown of the days events.

-Arrive at performance center and go through high level overview of the day (slide presentation)
-Go outside and get in the same model car your picking up. (I was in a LBB DCT M2. I didn't see any manual options available)
-You and your guest ride together in the car and the instructor is coaching you via a radio inside the car.
-Track time! The track portion is about a 30 second lap and you get to go hard on it for 10-15 minutes (about 20+ laps). Then you switch drivers and your guest does the exact same. It's perfect because both people get the same about of driving.
-Break Testing: Same as above except you accelerate hard (to 45+ mph) and then jump on the breaks. Each person went 3-4 times.
-Skid Pad: Every person was able to drive around the skip pad 4 times. Twice with DSC off and twice off. We did this is a 340i.
-Hot Lap: You and your guest are in a M3 with a driving instructor and they rip around the entire circuit (~2-3 min lap).

The rest of the day is delivery, off roading in an x5, and the museum right now. The manufacturing facility is closed until 2018 for tours.

This is probably one of the coolest things I've ever done!
I appreciate the detailed breakdown of your PCD experience.

That's interesting that your guest is allowed to do some driving as well. I actually called the Performance Center to ask them about my PCD. I asked if my wife could do the off-road driving part, since she was interested in getting an X model, and they said, "no, only the person purchasing the car is allowed to do the driving". Hopefully this person was wrong and just didn't know what they were talking about.

My wife was also did not want to be a passenger in the performance driving sessions because she doesn't want to get car sick... lol... But if she can drive herself she would be ok.
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