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The M2 has no front alignment pins to pull though, correct?
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I'm not 100% because I have not pulled what i believe are the alignment pins but according to this picture that I found on the internet, that corresponds to what mine looks like under the hood, it does appear that they do.
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Scca Solo and "classed correctly " .. Isn't that an oxymoron .. ... Seriously .. Good luck though. Most BMWs don't fare well in BMW classing. With that info added by CSBM5 about the lack of * any * adjustability for the stock alignment, wow... There's no way this car won't be killed in classing for SCCA. They simply don't have a good workaround for placing cars that have a significant design advantage/disadvantage. |
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Sound like crash bolts to me just ten times as expensive ~$500 per side. 30 minutes is half a degree of camber, right? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=31_1121 Also, I'm not sure that your interpretation of whether port installed items like the m performance coilovers are legal is correct. Can't the frs in c street and the ds/hs jcw minis all take advantage of port installed sway bars and springs and stay in street class? Last edited by hocm; 09-14-2016 at 03:04 PM.. |
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I sent out a couple emails and messages trying to figure out where a bone stock M2 would run but had no luck with some of the local SCCA chapters..
I used to run in SMF but no idea where the M2 would run..
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the SAC recommends running this car in BS (B-street)."
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Mini coopers have the option of a JCW package from the factory allowing cars to update/backdate their suspensions to use those components. If BMW releases a M2 Trim level or Package (Not CS) that includes the M adjustable suspension then they will be allowed. If you have to customize your order from a dealer with those pieces installed either at port or at the dealership then they are not allowed in Street classes. Quick way to get your answer on newer cars, if you can go to the webpage and spec out the car before you get to "accessories" then it's legal in street. If you click on it as an accessory or a write in when you go to the dealership and order the car then it is not allowed. |
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Updating earlier guidance from the SCCA. In the November Fastrack, SCCA released the official stock class for 2017 for the M2: B-street.
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Are you talking about a new rule? Port installed options are legal in Street. This is what caused the FRS/BRZ dilemma with the TRD option suspension. Same with the protested Mini in STX with a boost altering option (I heard at least). Section 12: "An item of standard or optional equipment that could have been ordered with the car, installed on the factory production line, and delivered through a dealer in the United States. Port-installed options provided by the manufacturer are considered to be the same as those installed on the factory production line. Dealer-installed options or deletions (except as required by factory directives), no matter how common or what their origin, are not included in this definition. This definition does not allow the updating or backdating of parts." As the rule is currently written, any/all port installed options are considered standard parts and are therefore legal in Street regardless of their performance impact. If the coilovers were port installed (I think they are dealer installed), they would be legal. This specific rule is an advantage imported vehicles have over domestics. |
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At one time I just told them pull all classification and just let me run it, I am not looking to compete just have fun.. Stock its B-Street but I have Eibach springs and Bypass Exhaust so organizers said I would be in STU. Registered and labeled properly and as I was lining the car up someone from STU complained apparently. They told me I would be moved to CSP I believe, so I removed classing and was running only numbers. Then finally organizers came back and said it should be STU.
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Springs bump you out of street class into STU as you know. I would have simply told the complainer to protest the car (since according to the rule book, it falls into STU "NOC" - "not otherwise classified 4-seater, turbocharged 2.0-3.1L".) Unfortunately, without a lot of other class legal work, with a PAX of 0.831 in STU it's not likely to PAX well or be competitive in class. B-street is 0.813. None of that matters of course since it sounds like you just want to have some fun with the car. Well, how was it?
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I'm envious of you guys in warm states with big smooth parking lots. By the time I hit 1200 miles autocross was over for the season
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The cold weather did not help with grip but still was very fun! Hopefully next one weather is hotter and tires sticky! But this thing handles incredible and the Eibach springs make it feel even more planted! Best run of the day.. lots of fun
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Ha! El Ban I don't know if you noticed me but I was in a white evo ix on the turnpike trying to catch up and get a good look at LBB.
I was planning to run the event but was having spark blow out issues so headed home. Glad you liked the event and hope to catch you in person the next time. MSCC is usually really relaxed I'm surprised someone protested. I'm hoping to eventually be able to autocross an M2 if I can get an allocation. The surface at Lake County Tech is really getting worn down. Pretty slippery in the cold |
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I am planning being there on the one scheduled for February so we can definitely have a chat there. That's what I heard that MSCC is very relaxed and laid back and everyone is great. So I have no idea why the whole back and forward about the classification took place. I'm thinking they protested initially thinking I would run faster but this is my first event in this car and although I have done road racing and Auto X before it has never been in a RWD car with power like the M2 has. So I was really just out there trying to get a feel of the car but the cold weather wasn't helping. As soon as I rolled into inspection I had iDrive saying to inflate the tires cause they were too low for over 80mph driving and perform a reset. So after inflating and resetting it tried to recalculate. But it does it while driving. At that time I was already running my heat so it wasn't able to fully reset so I was blind as to temperature at each corner. I spoke to a couple guys there, one in a Z06 and one in a Pontiac G8, both great talking about cars and they did confirm that the moment to turn off DSC was there since organizers would allow me to swing the car a bit without pulling me. They say they are tolerant with it as long as someone is not trying to drift the car the whole layout. But being new to the car I was running nannies on. Hope you make it out to the next one!
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EDIT: just sent a question in to the Solo Events Board, so we'll see what they say.
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